Dear Sky, Talk about W E being dead is just empty chatter for the time being. Ivan
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+icribb=iinet.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 2:02 PM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. Hi Chris. Its Sky here. I will tell you guys that, even before the office version of Window-Eyes came out, their were even lies told by venders about it. For example, some of the venders would say Window-Eyes was going bust, or that it isn't good, etc, etc, etc, and those factors has never helped Window-Eyes flourish at all.Even the blind institutions, like CNIB, etc, would tell lies about Window-Eyes too. I remember a list member telling me he had a blazing argument on the talkx email list with a vender and the vender told him their was no favouritism regarding JAWS and other screen readers. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 8:35 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. They may not legally be able to at this point. There may be legal things that might prevent them from making announcements before the date that has been decided. One of the VFO staff isn't going to come on here and go shhhh guys, we're killing Window-eyes but don't tell anyone. They're going to make an official announcement. I am going to wait and see what that announcement says, how they plan to take their next action and what they decide to do. If Window-eyes operates on my system, which it clearly does, it's not dead. VFO hasn't made an official announcement that it is so in my book, that means it's still alive even if it might be in the short term. We shall wait and see. The announcement might not even happen for another year. None of us knows. I suppose the speculation will continue until it's time for them to make an announcement. Until then, we're going round in circles. i propose ignoring all speculation and window-eyes is dead announcements from non-VFO staff. On 5/9/2017 9:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: > Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk that someone from VFO > would step in and say it ain't so? > > On 5/9/2017 8:28 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Hmm, sounds like fake news Peter. I deal in accuracy, so if VFO >> discontinues WE as of July 1st 2017 (for example), then it is not dead >> until that date. I'm sorry if you don't care for reading the truth. >> >> On 5/9/2017 8:59 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: >>> Well, you are welcome to your personal delusions. Remember all the >>> folks at >>> GW Micro who did the development work are gone, so who will carry on? >>> >>> Peter Duran >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 6:38 PM >>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >>> Subject: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. >>> >>> If you're trying to get people to stop using >>> Window-eyes, you're probably in for a pretty good fight there. and >>> there >>> has been no official announcement that Window-eyes is indeed dead. >>> people will still use it no matter what you say. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/9/2017 5:32 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: >>>> Well, Window-Eyes is unfortunately definitely dead. It is >>>> irrational to >>>> presuppose that VFO will support two competing screen readers, with >>>> one a >>>> lot cheeper than the other. Sad to say, JAWS won and WE lost the >>>> screen-reader wars. >>>> >>>> Those of us with technical skills ought to help NVDA to improve >>>> over time >>> so >>>> we can keep up with Windows 10 advances. >>>> >>>> Peter Duran >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:11 PM >>>> To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >>>> >>>> Can one be created? >>>> >>>> Vaughan. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 1:37 a.m. >>>> To: Darrell Bowles; Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >>>> >>>> I just wished NVDA had a Window Eyes keyboard layout? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Darrell Bowles via Talk >>>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:00 AM >>>> To: Peter Duran ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >>>> >>>> I didn't say that window-eyes would survive. And didn't I already >>>> say >>> that >>>> JAWS, NVDA and narrator are left on the windows platform? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk >>>> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:58 PM >>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >>>> Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! >>>> >>>> >>>> It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a >>>> fanticy >>>> instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to >>>> continue and compete with JFW. Why would they do that? >>>> >>>> There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and >>>> VoiceOver. 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