Window Eyes may bnot be dead, just no future development!
-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 10:21 PM
To: 'Sky Mundell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.
Dear Sky,
Talk about W E being dead is just empty chatter for the time being.
Ivan
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From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 2:02 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.
Hi Chris. Its Sky here. I will tell you guys that, even before the office
version of Window-Eyes came out, their were even lies told by venders about
it. For example, some of the venders would say Window-Eyes was going bust,
or that it isn't good, etc, etc, etc, and those factors has never helped
Window-Eyes flourish at all.Even the blind institutions, like CNIB, etc,
would tell lies about Window-Eyes too. I remember a list member telling me
he had a blazing argument on the talkx email list with a vender and the
vender told him their was no favouritism regarding JAWS and other screen
readers. -----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 8:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.
They may not legally be able to at this point. There may
be legal things that might prevent them from making announcements before
the date that has been decided. One of the VFO staff isn't going to
come on here and go shhhh guys, we're killing Window-eyes but don't tell
anyone. They're going to make an official announcement. I am going to
wait and see what that announcement says, how they plan to take their
next action and what they decide to do. If Window-eyes operates on my
system, which it clearly does, it's not dead. VFO hasn't made an
official announcement that it is so in my book, that means it's still
alive even if it might be in the short term. We shall wait and see. The
announcement might not even happen for another year. None of us knows.
I suppose the speculation will continue until it's time for them to make
an announcement.
Until then, we're going round in circles. i propose ignoring all
speculation and window-eyes is dead announcements from non-VFO staff.
On 5/9/2017 9:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk that someone from VFO
would step in and say it ain't so?
On 5/9/2017 8:28 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
Hmm, sounds like fake news Peter. I deal in accuracy, so if VFO
discontinues WE as of July 1st 2017 (for example), then it is not dead
until that date. I'm sorry if you don't care for reading the truth.
On 5/9/2017 8:59 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
Well, you are welcome to your personal delusions. Remember all the
folks at
GW Micro who did the development work are gone, so who will carry on?
Peter Duran
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 6:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.
If you're trying to get people to stop using
Window-eyes, you're probably in for a pretty good fight there. and
there
has been no official announcement that Window-eyes is indeed dead.
people will still use it no matter what you say.
On 5/9/2017 5:32 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
Well, Window-Eyes is unfortunately definitely dead. It is
irrational to
presuppose that VFO will support two competing screen readers, with
one a
lot cheeper than the other. Sad to say, JAWS won and WE lost the
screen-reader wars.
Those of us with technical skills ought to help NVDA to improve
over time
so
we can keep up with Windows 10 advances.
Peter Duran
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From: Talk
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On
Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:11 PM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
Can one be created?
Vaughan.
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From: Talk
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On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 1:37 a.m.
To: Darrell Bowles; Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
I just wished NVDA had a Window Eyes keyboard layout?
-----Original Message-----
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:00 AM
To: Peter Duran ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
I didn't say that window-eyes would survive. And didn't I already
say
that
JAWS, NVDA and narrator are left on the windows platform?
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:58 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]>
Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a
fanticy
instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to
continue and compete with JFW. Why would they do that?
There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and
VoiceOver. So, get real and get to work.
I suppose those of you who believe that Window-Eyes will stay
around also
believe that the health care bill that passed the House last week will
cover
everybody as promised by Trump instead of leaving 24 million folks
without
any health care.
Peter Duran
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