Hi: I am pretty young, (50 this year), so I have not had as much trouble with change as some.
Over the years, I have come from DOS to Windows. I started with a demo of Soft Vert. Then, I got ASAP and used the demo for a while. I also tried JAWS for DOS, as well as Vocal-Eyes. For some reason, though, ASAP did what I wanted. In my job, it carried me all the way to 1998 when my company “merged with” (they were actually bought out by) another company. I had already purchased Windows 3.1 with no screen reader, nor a clue as to what to use. Through that time, I bought Slimware Window Bridge, tried out JFW and settled on a demo of ASAW for a while. I upgraded to Windows 95, then, in my job, had to switch to a Windows terminal emulation package, so I got JFW. But, at home, I went with Window-Eyes, because I liked its approach and agreed more with its licensing model. I never thought I’d use a touch device, but, have tried several over the years, using MobileSpeak and VoiceOver on IOS. I’m about to play some more with, what’s its name, Oh, yeah, TalkBack, on an Android phone I’m hoping to inherit from my 12 year-old daughter when she gets her pictures off of it. Memory going. Another 10 years, and I’ll be in trouble. Oh, yes, almost forgot to mention Speakup and Orca on Linux. Haven’t tried Emac Speak yet. I don’t know if I’m a glutton for punishment, or what. I guess I’ve always liked to experiment with things. However, change is not always welcome. There are many of us who just want our computers to work, and we get very used to a certain way of doing things. One thing I applaud GW Micro for doing is their willingness to provide several alternate keyboard layouts for JAWS users and others, not insisting that their way is the best or only way. It may, indeed, be possible to do a kind of Window-Eyes layout for JAWS, but, I’m not sure. Have to study the manual when I get some time. Having a wife and 2 children has put some demands on my time that weren’t there before. Gotta go out to wait for the school bus for my 6 year-old daughter. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:32 AM To: Kevin Huber; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Sold down the river. That's a pretty good one. What we have seen, is how true capitalism works. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Richard: > > We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not, and > we have to get used to it. Many people did not like when DOS was > fazed out, if you remember, but we had to adapt and most of us did. > > I don't think that anybody intentionally sold anybody down the river. > It's just that big companies eat up smaller companies. That's the way > it is. > > Kevin Huber > > On 5/16/17, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurlander Richard (750000) >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM >> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> >> Subject: whole migrating situation >> >> As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are using >> window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and Aaron and all >> of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo bought all these >> other companies that they should tried to make the screen readers as close >> to each other as possible, not having to have to learn a new screen reader. >> I think that when you use screen readers you should only have to use arrow >> keys, tab keys, application keys not use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is >> a pain in the neck to keep switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have >> had a window-eyes keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that >> Microsoft wants everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome >> any more. I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel >> or listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think I >> have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are the >> cheat sheets that c >> an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a geek. All >> screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that you >> have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with Microsoft as well >> as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to help the blind. The >> Microsoft people on the accessibility line should be trained with all screne >> readers. >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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