What would be the benefit in thisfor the individuals who would set up your proposed mall? Who would pay for it?
On 7/21/2017 3:05 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Unfortunately, seems like this is yet another way they try to push the > final point of WE as quickly as possible. Next thing is, they will turn > down the lists, my guess is. Perhaps the only reason why they still keep > the lists running, and App Central up, is that people actually make use > of them. > > > If now, they will not allow updates to be posted, that would mean noone > would use the App Central, so it is all good to hit the road for the > trash-bin. And, the day too few people are active on the list, down > which road does that take them? :) > > > Or, are they just awaiting the next failure of the server, then all the > sudden just determining that no more service will be done on the > machine, and we are left in the blue. The biggest trouble I find, is > that VFO simply do not care to inform anyone. They sit there till things > have reached a point, then just pull the plug. And if they even can pull > the plug unnoticed, that is their fun. Or, why have we seen no > announcement of the decision not to update apps, anything before. Too > sad, as that will make it very hard for developers to do what they > actually could, to make the screen reader stay up-to-date with the > newest technologies out there. > > > Someone setting up a server, might be a good idea. And first it has to > be done from scratch, why not open a service that would offer users a > cross-platform service. That is, it could hold not only an app store, > but a whole app mall. What I am suggesting is, go to the new app mall, > and here open the link for WinEyes, if that is your screen reader. You > will have the chance to pick and choose from WE apps. Or, if you are a > Jaws user, go to ap mall, open the Jaws link, and choose apps from the > list. Same with NVDA. > > > Sure, no apps are going to show up in all the sections, but if you > compare it with a real mall, you don't get milk in the sportsware store > either, do you. The big benefit of a combined service, would be that > people had ONE place to go, no matter which screen reader they used. It > might even encourage app developers, when they see, and read about, the > different apps for other screen readers. That way, maybe some developers > would be able to come up with more cross-platform like solutions. Of > course, it even could have a subsection for IPhone apps, or those for > Android, that are specialldesigned for visually impaired. Or, at least, > it could hold some reviews of such apps. Further, if there could be a > place for developers to go, and pick up articles and tutorials for how > to build apps under different environments, this could be yet another > way of encouraging more new apps and features to see the market, under > any of the screen readers covered. > > > Thing is, I wonder how long we have to get things going. As the end-date > of the Jaws transmission offer draws near, I have a tiny feeling we > might not see the list servers upp running, all that much longer. OK, > they might be using external servers, but I don't know if there is a > subscription for them to keep renewed, in such a case, likely it won't > be kept alive. > > > If anyone here thinks I am trying to be all negative, let me appologize. > My one and only point was to accept the facts, sad as they are, and > suggest that something else could be done to at least get the best out > of the existing situation. > > > On 7/21/2017 7:50 PM, Jeff Weiss via Talk wrote: >> I would certainly be interested in such a thing if somebody could set >> it up. >> I am thinking of a Window-eyes app page which is privately run. It >> could be an app repository, or it might include more things, like a >> new Window-eyes list, etc. >> Jeff Weiss >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: John Farley >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:18 AM >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> Dear Jeff, >> >> Some of us do intend to use Window-Eyes as long as it is viable. >> >> Would it be possible to place your updated apps on a public folder >> somewhere where we could still access them? >> >> >> >> Regards, John >> >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:08 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Fw: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> I just wrote to [email protected] about updating all of my 35 >> apps. From the response I just received, no more updates to app >> central will be allowed. >> Even while the web site is active, this seems to be just an >> unnecessary termination of services which all of the current >> Window-Eyes users are using. >> I already posted all of the updates a week ago, but aparently no more >> updates will be approved. >> Jeff Weiss >> >> >> >> From: Bryan Carver >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:55 AM >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; [email protected] >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but we will unfortunately >> not be posting any further updates for apps. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bryan Carver JAWS & MAGic Certified >> >> VFO� | Director Technical Support >> >> 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 >> >> T 800-444-4443 Ext 1026 >> >> [email protected] >> >> www.vfogroup.com >> >> How am I doing? Let >> >> Ruth Lutes, VP of Customer Success and Quality know! >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:50 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> >> >> I am writing to see if there is a problem with updating my Window-Eyes >> apps on App Central. It�s been several days, and I have not heard >> anything�nor have I seen the updated apps come out. I updated all of >> the 35 apps below so that any error messages will come to my home >> address since I am now retired. Please allow these updates to be >> posted, or let me know if there is some problem. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff Weiss >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jeff Weiss >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 9:42 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> >> >> I just realized that I had my app error messages coming to work. >> >> Since I am now retired, I updated all of the error messages to come to >> my home email address. >> >> The list of apps and their newly changed versions are as follows: >> >> >> >> AppsActive >> >> version 2.3 >> >> >> >> AssertiveChristian >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> BrailleQuiz >> >> Version 1.7 >> >> >> >> BrowseModeStatus >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> Celebrate >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> Christmas >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> DailyBlessings >> >> version 2.0 >> >> >> >> DailyProverbs >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> Daily Psalms >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> EasterBlessing >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> ErrorList >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> FreeSpace >> >> version 1.8 >> >> >> >> GivingThanks >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> GodsValentine >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> Happiness >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> HushNow >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> LunarLander >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> MissionImpossible >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> MusicMenu >> >> Version 1.6 >> >> >> >> OutlookSaveAllAttachments >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> PlayBack >> >> version 1.6 >> >> >> >> PrayerForTheDay >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> PrimeNumbers >> >> version 1.2 >> >> >> >> PromisesOfGod >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> RefreshSets >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> RomanNumerals >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> ScriptComments >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> Spelling Practice >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> SpellingTest >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> StatesGame >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> TextToClip >> >> version 1.8 >> >> >> >> TwelveGifts >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> WEHotkeys >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> WEPMInfo >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> WordScramble >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff Weiss >> >> [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40btinternet.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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