I agree with you. It could be done but like you say it would be a massive undertaking, not to mention the cost.
Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more. Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 00:21:03 +0000 Nick Sarames via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > What would be the benefit in thisfor the individuals who would set up > your proposed mall? Who would pay for it? > > On 7/21/2017 3:05 PM, David via Talk wrote: > > Unfortunately, seems like this is yet another way they try to push the > > final point of WE as quickly as possible. Next thing is, they will turn > > down the lists, my guess is. Perhaps the only reason why they still keep > > the lists running, and App Central up, is that people actually make use > > of them. > > > > > > If now, they will not allow updates to be posted, that would mean noone > > would use the App Central, so it is all good to hit the road for the > > trash-bin. And, the day too few people are active on the list, down > > which road does that take them? :) > > > > > > Or, are they just awaiting the next failure of the server, then all the > > sudden just determining that no more service will be done on the > > machine, and we are left in the blue. The biggest trouble I find, is > > that VFO simply do not care to inform anyone. They sit there till things > > have reached a point, then just pull the plug. And if they even can pull > > the plug unnoticed, that is their fun. Or, why have we seen no > > announcement of the decision not to update apps, anything before. Too > > sad, as that will make it very hard for developers to do what they > > actually could, to make the screen reader stay up-to-date with the > > newest technologies out there. > > > > > > Someone setting up a server, might be a good idea. And first it has to > > be done from scratch, why not open a service that would offer users a > > cross-platform service. That is, it could hold not only an app store, > > but a whole app mall. What I am suggesting is, go to the new app mall, > > and here open the link for WinEyes, if that is your screen reader. You > > will have the chance to pick and choose from WE apps. Or, if you are a > > Jaws user, go to ap mall, open the Jaws link, and choose apps from the > > list. Same with NVDA. > > > > > > Sure, no apps are going to show up in all the sections, but if you > > compare it with a real mall, you don't get milk in the sportsware store > > either, do you. The big benefit of a combined service, would be that > > people had ONE place to go, no matter which screen reader they used. It > > might even encourage app developers, when they see, and read about, the > > different apps for other screen readers. That way, maybe some developers > > would be able to come up with more cross-platform like solutions. Of > > course, it even could have a subsection for IPhone apps, or those for > > Android, that are specialldesigned for visually impaired. Or, at least, > > it could hold some reviews of such apps. Further, if there could be a > > place for developers to go, and pick up articles and tutorials for how > > to build apps under different environments, this could be yet another > > way of encouraging more new apps and features to see the market, under > > any of the screen readers covered. > > > > > > Thing is, I wonder how long we have to get things going. As the end-date > > of the Jaws transmission offer draws near, I have a tiny feeling we > > might not see the list servers upp running, all that much longer. OK, > > they might be using external servers, but I don't know if there is a > > subscription for them to keep renewed, in such a case, likely it won't > > be kept alive. > > > > > > If anyone here thinks I am trying to be all negative, let me appologize. > > My one and only point was to accept the facts, sad as they are, and > > suggest that something else could be done to at least get the best out > > of the existing situation. > > > > > > On 7/21/2017 7:50 PM, Jeff Weiss via Talk wrote: > >> I would certainly be interested in such a thing if somebody could set > >> it up. > >> I am thinking of a Window-eyes app page which is privately run. It > >> could be an app repository, or it might include more things, like a > >> new Window-eyes list, etc. > >> Jeff Weiss > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: John Farley > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:18 AM > >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps > >> > >> Dear Jeff, > >> > >> Some of us do intend to use Window-Eyes as long as it is viable. > >> > >> Would it be possible to place your updated apps on a public folder > >> somewhere where we could still access them? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, John > >> > >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 > >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Talk > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:08 PM > >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > >> Subject: Fw: updated all of my 35 apps > >> > >> I just wrote to [email protected] about updating all of my 35 > >> apps. From the response I just received, no more updates to app > >> central will be allowed. > >> Even while the web site is active, this seems to be just an > >> unnecessary termination of services which all of the current > >> Window-Eyes users are using. > >> I already posted all of the updates a week ago, but aparently no more > >> updates will be approved. > >> Jeff Weiss > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Bryan Carver > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:55 AM > >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; [email protected] > >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps > >> > >> Hi Jeff, > >> > >> I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but we will unfortunately > >> not be posting any further updates for apps. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Bryan Carver JAWS & MAGic Certified > >> > >> VFO? | Director Technical Support > >> > >> 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 > >> > >> T 800-444-4443 Ext 1026 > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> www.vfogroup.com > >> > >> How am I doing? Let > >> > >> Ruth Lutes, VP of Customer Success and Quality know! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:50 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: updated all of my 35 apps > >> > >> > >> > >> I am writing to see if there is a problem with updating my Window-Eyes > >> apps on App Central. It?s been several days, and I have not heard > >> anything?nor have I seen the updated apps come out. I updated all of > >> the 35 apps below so that any error messages will come to my home > >> address since I am now retired. Please allow these updates to be > >> posted, or let me know if there is some problem. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jeff Weiss > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Jeff Weiss > >> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 9:42 PM > >> > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> Subject: updated all of my 35 apps > >> > >> > >> > >> I just realized that I had my app error messages coming to work. > >> > >> Since I am now retired, I updated all of the error messages to come to > >> my home email address. > >> > >> The list of apps and their newly changed versions are as follows: > >> > >> > >> > >> AppsActive > >> > >> version 2.3 > >> > >> > >> > >> AssertiveChristian > >> > >> Version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> BrailleQuiz > >> > >> Version 1.7 > >> > >> > >> > >> BrowseModeStatus > >> > >> version 1.3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Celebrate > >> > >> Version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Christmas > >> > >> version 1.3 > >> > >> > >> > >> DailyBlessings > >> > >> version 2.0 > >> > >> > >> > >> DailyProverbs > >> > >> version 1.3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Daily Psalms > >> > >> version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> EasterBlessing > >> > >> version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> ErrorList > >> > >> version 1.7 > >> > >> > >> > >> FreeSpace > >> > >> version 1.8 > >> > >> > >> > >> GivingThanks > >> > >> version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> GodsValentine > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Happiness > >> > >> Version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> HushNow > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> LunarLander > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> MissionImpossible > >> > >> version 1.5 > >> > >> > >> > >> MusicMenu > >> > >> Version 1.6 > >> > >> > >> > >> OutlookSaveAllAttachments > >> > >> version 1.3 > >> > >> > >> > >> PlayBack > >> > >> version 1.6 > >> > >> > >> > >> PrayerForTheDay > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> PrimeNumbers > >> > >> version 1.2 > >> > >> > >> > >> PromisesOfGod > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> RefreshSets > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> RomanNumerals > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> ScriptComments > >> > >> version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Spelling Practice > >> > >> Version 1.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> SpellingTest > >> > >> version 1.7 > >> > >> > >> > >> StatesGame > >> > >> version 1.5 > >> > >> > >> > >> TextToClip > >> > >> version 1.8 > >> > >> > >> > >> TwelveGifts > >> > >> version 1.4 > >> > >> > >> > >> WEHotkeys > >> > >> version 1.5 > >> > >> > >> > >> WEPMInfo > >> > >> version 1.5 > >> > >> > >> > >> WordScramble > >> > >> version 1.7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jeff Weiss > >> > >> [email protected] > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40btinternet.com. > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? 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