Why doesn't the vfo group put out a working copy of window eyes in the public domain? This is what Freedom Scientific did with jaws for dos.

-----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
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Thanks, Carol.

That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about distributing Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed. Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with Window-Eyes in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do so.

Best,

Rod

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Hi Rod,

Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is
still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can
be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI
may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to
continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being
distributed.

Carol


On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install Window-Eyes. Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

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Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

  wrote:
Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
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    Hi Loy,

    If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
    I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
    If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

    Best,

    Rod

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    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
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      And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

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[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
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      Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
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      Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

      ok thanks
      i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
      i downloadee most versions.
      but how do i get a more acurate version though?
      or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
      i guess not.
      aad
      On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +0000
      Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

      > Hi Aad,
      >
      > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
      >
      > Hth,
      >
      > Rod
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
      > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
      > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
      > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
      > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
      > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
      >
      > hello all
      > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
      > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it
does
      > not work under windows 10.
      > i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so
that
      > i re install it?
      > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and
could
      > work better with window eyes.
      > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould
be
      > better tan window eyes anyway.
      > aad
      >
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