you know what? The only other screen reader that comes close, historically-speaking, to NVDA's power, flexibility, and affordability, in my opinion, would have to be the old ASAP screen reader and tinyTalk screen readers for ms-DOS. Both NVDA and ASAP and tinyTalk for ms-dos dos can do stuff that no other screen reader can do.

On 9/10/2017 1:34 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
I can assure you that that is on the list of things for NVAccess.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:11 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Josh Kennedy
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

NVDA just needs network and citrix support and it will be able to really
hurt the sales of jaws. It would be great if someone would make an NVDA
addon to give NVDA citrix and network installation server client support.


On 9/10/2017 9:29 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
It would hurt the sales of JAWS.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    Cc: Russ Kiehne
    Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:23 AM
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes


    Why doesn't the vfo group put out a working copy of window eyes in the
    public domain?  This is what Freedom Scientific did with jaws for dos.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rod Hutton via Talk
    Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 11:33 AM
    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    Cc: Rod Hutton
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

    Thanks, Carol.

    That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about
distributing
    Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed.
    Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with
    Window-Eyes in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do
so.
    Best,

    Rod

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Talk
    [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
    Of Carol and Roger via Talk
    Sent: September 9, 2017 2:13 PM
    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
    Cc: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

    Hi Rod,

    Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is
    still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can
    be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI
    may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to
    continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being
    distributed.

    Carol


    On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
    > Hi Russ and all,
    >
    > As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you
install
    > Window-Eyes.
    > Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread
    > seems to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes,
I
    > think you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.
    >
    > Hth,
    >
    > Rod
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Talk
    > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
    > Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
    > Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
    > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
    > Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
    >
    > It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's
the
    > serial number that matters.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Carol and Roger via Talk
    > Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
    > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    > Cc: Carol and Roger
    > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
    >
    > Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
    > the name and any other information that is asked for during
installation
    > would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your
copy
    > and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still
be
    > a demo copy.
    >
    >
    > On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
    >> If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person
would
    >> still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't
this
    >> correct?
    >>
    >> On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]
    >>
    >>   wrote:
    >>> Hi Loy,
    >>>
    >>> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would
be
    >>> okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it
was
    >>> no longer being developed.
    >>> I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
    >>> infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>>
    >>> Rod
    >>>
    >>> -----Original Message-----
    >>> From: Talk
    >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
    >>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
    >>> Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
    >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
    >>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
    >>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>
    >>> If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
    >>> countries you had to have a dongle.
    >>>     ----- Original Message -----
    >>>     From: Rod Hutton via Talk
    >>>     To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    >>>     Cc: Rod Hutton
    >>>     Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    >>>     Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>     Hi Loy,
    >>>
    >>>     If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
    >>>     I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
    >>>     If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
    >>>
    >>>     Best,
    >>>
    >>>     Rod
    >>>
    >>>     -----Original Message-----
    >>>     From: Talk
    >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
    >>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
    >>>     Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
    >>>     To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
    >>>     Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
    >>>     Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>
    >>>     There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can
get
    >>> a
    >>> downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from
someone
    >>> else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
    >>> developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
    >>>       ----- Original Message -----
    >>>       From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
    >>>       To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    >>>       Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
    >>>       Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    >>>       Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>       And then after installation of WE how about the online
activation?
    >>>
    >>>       -----Original Message-----
    >>>       From: Talk
    >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
    >>> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
    >>>       Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
    >>>       To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    >>>       Cc: aad leeflang
    >>>       Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>
    >>>       ok thanks
    >>>       i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd
newer
    >>> than 9.0.
    >>>       i downloadee most versions.
    >>>       but how do i get a more acurate version though?
    >>>       or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new
pc.
    >>>       i guess not.
    >>>       aad
    >>>       On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +0000
    >>>       Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>       > Hi Aad,
    >>>       >
    >>>       > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require
at
    >>> least version 9.2.
    >>>       >
    >>>       > Hth,
    >>>       >
    >>>       > Rod
    >>>       >
    >>>       > -----Original Message-----
    >>>       > From: Talk
    >>>       >
    >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
    >>> On
    >>>       > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
    >>>       > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
    >>>       > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
    >>>       > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
    >>>       > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
    >>>       >
    >>>       > hello all
    >>>       > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
    >>>       > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that
it
    >>> does
    >>>       > not work under windows 10.
    >>>       > i had the cd version 9.0.
    >>>       > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window
eyes
    >>> so
    >>> that
    >>>       > i re install it?
    >>>       > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well
and
    >>> could
    >>>       > work better with window eyes.
    >>>       > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws
sould
    >>> be
    >>>       > better tan window eyes anyway.
    >>>       > aad
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