Debby,

You are right. Shortly after my posting the workaround, yet another 
version (56.01) came out from Mozilla, and swoopsy, there all 
accessibility flew out the windows. The recent version of Firefox, in 
very short and sharp words, is USELESS for WinEyes users.


I personally ended up going for the business version, as someone kindly 
suggested. So far, have had positive experience with it, and find it 
promissing to not having to fool around with new who-knows-why updates, 
every six weeks or so.


If you seemingly have got Firefox up running in its safe mode, maybe I 
have a tiny bit of helpful info for you. Instead of having to manually 
remembering to start Firefox with the added Command line parameter, it 
should be possible to have it do so by hitting a hotkey. Please note, I 
have not tested this myself, so take it for whatever it might be worth 
to you.


1. Go to your Desktop.

2. Focus the Firefox Icon.

3. Hit the Shift-F10, alternatively, the App-key; and choose Properties.

4. Go down to the editbox where it asks for the program name, and insert 
the -safe-mode parameter after the name, separated with a space. Please 
note the dashes in the parameter.

5. While you are in this dialog, you might want to tab over to the 
hotkey part, and define yourself a quick-key for loading Firefox. For 
instance, I have defined Alt-Ctrl-F, which is quick and smooth way of 
loading the software from anywhere.

6. Tab to OK, and hit Enter.


If everything goes well, you now should have Firefox start up in safe 
mode, every time you hit your new hotkey.


Plese, may you be ware, in cases where you press Enter on a link in an 
Email, Firefox will load directly. In such cases, if Firefox is not yet 
loaded, it will load in normal mode. You hence might want to always keep 
a Firefox window, loaded in Safe Mode, open on your screen. Even a blank 
page should do.


Again, should you find the workarounds fail, perhaps it might be time to 
give the business edition a spin.


For the records, I installed it directly on top of my version 56, and it 
came up with all my history and favorites (bookmarks) ready to go. 
Should you want to make sure, you might follow the instructions Rod 
posted a few days ago, for backing up your bookmarks from firefox, prior 
to running the installation. It all was done in less than five minutes 
here, and it is good to have an otherwise stabil and nice browser back 
in business.


I do take the opportunity to apologize to all, for any inconveniences my 
initially posted workarounds might have caused. They were clearly 
working at the moment, but Mozilla wanted it the other way around. Even 
sighted people complain, and yet, the updates are forced on you, even 
with the updating feature turned off in the Firefox settings. Nothing 
more to do. And yet, so far the business eedition might be the reliable 
way to go for the next few months. That is, if you don't want to switch 
to another screen reader, hoping that Mozilla won't break all support 
for assisistive technology altoghether in some version to come.


On 10/26/2017 5:18 AM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I tried the Firefox safe mode, and it worked. I could browse the page 
> as expected and I could get to the menus. I will need to start FF this 
> way, because, when I closed the browser and launched it again, I was 
> back to the ding with the silent treatment and no menus.
>
> Debby
>
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