I'm not sure if I am implimenting the work-around correctly, but I'm 
getting an error message saying something like:

access denied - you will need to provide administrator permission to 
hange these settings.  Click continue to complete this operation.

On 10/26/2017 2:08 AM, David via Talk wrote:
> Debby,
> 
> You are right. Shortly after my posting the workaround, yet another
> version (56.01) came out from Mozilla, and swoopsy, there all
> accessibility flew out the windows. The recent version of Firefox, in
> very short and sharp words, is USELESS for WinEyes users.
> 
> 
> I personally ended up going for the business version, as someone kindly
> suggested. So far, have had positive experience with it, and find it
> promissing to not having to fool around with new who-knows-why updates,
> every six weeks or so.
> 
> 
> If you seemingly have got Firefox up running in its safe mode, maybe I
> have a tiny bit of helpful info for you. Instead of having to manually
> remembering to start Firefox with the added Command line parameter, it
> should be possible to have it do so by hitting a hotkey. Please note, I
> have not tested this myself, so take it for whatever it might be worth
> to you.
> 
> 
> 1. Go to your Desktop.
> 
> 2. Focus the Firefox Icon.
> 
> 3. Hit the Shift-F10, alternatively, the App-key; and choose Properties.
> 
> 4. Go down to the editbox where it asks for the program name, and insert
> the -safe-mode parameter after the name, separated with a space. Please
> note the dashes in the parameter.
> 
> 5. While you are in this dialog, you might want to tab over to the
> hotkey part, and define yourself a quick-key for loading Firefox. For
> instance, I have defined Alt-Ctrl-F, which is quick and smooth way of
> loading the software from anywhere.
> 
> 6. Tab to OK, and hit Enter.
> 
> 
> If everything goes well, you now should have Firefox start up in safe
> mode, every time you hit your new hotkey.
> 
> 
> Plese, may you be ware, in cases where you press Enter on a link in an
> Email, Firefox will load directly. In such cases, if Firefox is not yet
> loaded, it will load in normal mode. You hence might want to always keep
> a Firefox window, loaded in Safe Mode, open on your screen. Even a blank
> page should do.
> 
> 
> Again, should you find the workarounds fail, perhaps it might be time to
> give the business edition a spin.
> 
> 
> For the records, I installed it directly on top of my version 56, and it
> came up with all my history and favorites (bookmarks) ready to go.
> Should you want to make sure, you might follow the instructions Rod
> posted a few days ago, for backing up your bookmarks from firefox, prior
> to running the installation. It all was done in less than five minutes
> here, and it is good to have an otherwise stabil and nice browser back
> in business.
> 
> 
> I do take the opportunity to apologize to all, for any inconveniences my
> initially posted workarounds might have caused. They were clearly
> working at the moment, but Mozilla wanted it the other way around. Even
> sighted people complain, and yet, the updates are forced on you, even
> with the updating feature turned off in the Firefox settings. Nothing
> more to do. And yet, so far the business eedition might be the reliable
> way to go for the next few months. That is, if you don't want to switch
> to another screen reader, hoping that Mozilla won't break all support
> for assisistive technology altoghether in some version to come.
> 
> 
> On 10/26/2017 5:18 AM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I tried the Firefox safe mode, and it worked. I could browse the page
>> as expected and I could get to the menus. I will need to start FF this
>> way, because, when I closed the browser and launched it again, I was
>> back to the ding with the silent treatment and no menus.
>>
>> Debby
>>
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