Carol,
I wish I could figure out why so many people have this problem with IE.
I do see it but not very often. The only thing I can think of right now,
be it that I'm too lazy to go through all my options, is that because no
one lands their slimy little hands on my system other than myself, I
turn off images, animations, anything else visually oriented, and make
other adjustments I can't remember.
But who knows if that has anything to do with it.
In the mean time I'll start work on an outline for the brain jump
starter program. Unfortunately that won't be freeware. (smile)
Regards,
Tom
On 11/14/2017 9:47 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Thank you, Tom. I thought I read something like that yesterday. I
think IE crashes more on my PC than all my other programs put together,
grin.
Sometimes, when I open NVDA, I am able to close the error message and IE
comes back up to where I was before the crash. This makes my life much
easier, especially after going through six or eight pages to find what I
am looking for. In this case, I usually continue with NVDA until I get
frustrated. Then, I close everything and take a break somewhere else in
the house. Of course, more than likely, I forget what I was looking for
and never go back to it. Maybe you can make something that could
jumpstart the old synapses, grin.
Carol
I will play with this little program and see just how useful it will be
for me.
On 11/14/2017 8:51 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Carol,
Just to be clear, you will still have to use NVDA to close the IE
error message because it binds up the Window-Eyes or JAWS speech. And
the error message I get is always that IE must close. So after closing
it and closing NVDA you will then run SRC.exe to turn the screen
reader flag back on for Window-Eyes.
If you need to close Window-Eyes too you'll be all set because
reloading it without another screen reader running will turn the flag
back on. But you can run SRC.exe any time just to be sure. If the flag
is already on it will just tell you it is and close when you hit OK.
Regards,
Tom
On 11/14/2017 7:10 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Thank you, Tom. This sounds like what I need when IE crashes.
Typically, I can open NVDA to find I have an error message for IE,
but must close IE and speech in order to continue.
Carol
On 11/12/2017 8:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
* About the Screen Reader Check program *
This program is copyright 2017 Tom Kingston – all rights reserved.
See the included License.txt file for details.
Email: [email protected]
Windows has an internal setting that tells it if a screen reader is
running. Our screen
readers turn this on when we load them and off when we close them.
Windows uses it to make
some changes that help our screen readers work better. It is also
available for other programs to
check when they launch and make themselves more accessible as well.
The problem comes into play when something goes wrong with our
screen reader, such
as it stops talking but it’s not actually hung or crashed, which is
the case for me when Internet
Explorer throws an error. In my case I’m running Window-Eyes. So I
load NVDA to see what’s
going on. Sometimes this alone reopens the flow of speech from
Window-Eyes. If not closing
the error message with NVDA always brings Window-Eyes back to life.
My understanding is
that the same thing happens with JAWS.
Next I unload NVDA and continue on my merry way. But closing NVDA
turns off the
screen reader setting in Windows even though I’m still running a
screen reader. This is not the
fault of NVDA or exclusive to it. Any screen reader will do the
same. This is where this program
comes into play.
In order to turn the screen reader setting back on we would have to
unload our screen
reader and reload it. And in order to do that and insure the best
result we would have to close all
open programs, close our screen reader, reload it, and then reopen
those programs and do
whatever is necessary, e.g. load files, to get back to work. This is
because our screen readers
need to see some programs load in order to configure themselves to
work correctly with those
programs.
The Screen Reader Check program allows you to reset the screen
reader setting without
having to close and reopen your programs and screen reader. You can
run this program and it
will first check to see if the screen reader setting is on or off.
If it’s on the program will simply
notify you of this and close when you press the Ok button. If not it
will attempt to turn the screen
reader setting back on and then broadcast a system message to tell
all open windows that a
screen reader is running. It will then notify you that this was done
and close when you press the
Ok button.
The ScreenReaderCheck.zip file will extract a ScreenReaderCheck
folder. That folder
includes License.txt, ReadMe.txt (this file), and SRC.exe. Simply
unzip it into a folder of your
choice. You may then wish to place SRC.exe in a more convenient
place for quicker access.
I gave the program a short name to make it easy to run from the run
dialog. Just press
Windows+R and enter drive:\path\src.exe. for example, if you place
it in the root of your C-drive
you would just enter C:\SRC.exe.
You may also wish to open the context menu (Application key or
Shift+F10) on SRC.exe
in the folder you extracted it to and use “Send to” to send a
shortcut to your desktop. Within the
properties of that shortcut file, accessed through the context menu
or Alt-Enter, you can assign a
shortcut hot key to it.
If you have any comments or inquiries please email me at
[email protected]
Below is a link to the ScreenReaderCheck.zip file.
After downloading the file select it, open the context menu, P
Properties,
tab to the Unblock check box and check it.
This will prevent you from having to go through the Windows security
dialog in order to run SRC.exe.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugpweuw5igmmg8q/ScreenReaderCheck.zip?dl=1
Hope it's helpful.
Tom
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