But a 2-3-4 year old Mac will usually be able to use the latest
operating system, but no hardware support after 2 years with
Applecare.

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:24:17 -0400,
net bat via Talk wrote:
> 
> no license. but how much would a new mac cost every 5 years when
> apple stops all support for the operateing system, and security
> upgrades.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:11 PM
> To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Van Lant, Robin
> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> I think her point is that she won't have to pay to maintain a
> screen reader license once on a Mac platform.  I like Voiceover
> on my phone, but cannot bring myself to invest in a Mac,
> especially while still using Windows at work.  NVDA is certainly
> a nice option to keep the cost out of the Windows picture.
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> try the free n v d a. and jaws is a lot easier to upgrade then the i phone.
> you will have the same problem if you are going to use the i phone.
> it has to be updated about twice per year
> you need a i tunes account and computer to upgrade it.
> and half the time i have to restore the phone because the upgrade failed.
> you will have virtually no access to any files saved on the phone like you 
> have
> with windows.
> after about 3 years apple will not give any   more upgrades for the phone.
> the same with a apple mac.
> it gets to the point where you will get a pop up telling you you need to get a
> new computer when you try to upgrade safari. my neace hit this point last year
> on her 5 year old mac.
> etc. etc.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: George Savory via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:57 AM
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> Cc: George Savory
> Subject: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Listers,
> Been using Win-Eyes  since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be
> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using
> VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if
> Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I
> won't have to be upgrading a screen reader  everytime there is an
> upgrade
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