Hi Rod, I agree with you. I am very comfortable using VoiceOver on my iPhone. The support is robust just as on Windows. Using Jaws or Win-Eyes on travel websites, you must select the month and day of travel. This process was easy using VoiceOver on my iPhone. It was frustrating with Jaws or Win-Eyes on my desktop. I am sure support would have been there if Win-Eyes was still around. Thanks, I will look into the mini Mac.
On 8/24/18, Rod Hutton via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi George, > > I can't speak to ChromeOS, but, getting back to the matter of Macs, I'm not > sure what you mean by websites that use calendars. > As for keeping track of personal calendar events and reminders, I find my > iPhone a breeze with Siri, such that I don't have to use anything else but > my voice, since I have learn how Siri thinks and how to edit everything even > when I make mistakes. > Of course, I always have the option of editing the calendar and reminders > manually with the touch screen, but this is not very often, now that my > scheduling system is all set up. > As for a Mac computer and the screen reader, at $449 US, you really can't go > wrong picking up a Mac Mini, although many complain about it being an > out-of-date machine. > I see now that I went a bit overboard in buying a Macbook Pro, since, for > me, a Mac Mini would have done the job just fine. > The Mac Mini is simply an aluminum tower which lies flat in the footprint of > a regular size apple pie, and then all you need is a keyboard and a monitor > whose role could be filled nowadays by most flat-screen TVs and an HDMI > cable. > They come standard with a 500 GB spinning hard drive, and VoiceOver works > fine with this setup. > Admittedly, navigating the macOS and editing documents is quite a different > experience, insofar as each control you want to use is not immediately in > focus as we are accustomed to in Windows, requiring a repetitive process of > interacting and un-interacting with each control. > Personally, I have chosen to push myself to get comfortable with macOS, > seeing the benefits of being in the Apple ecosystem even with my PC. > It all comes down to what you want for yourself, and what you believe about > the manufacturers you want to associate with, and, in this light, I don't > think there are any right or wrong answers. > My wife jokes with me that I always seem happier when I use my Mac than when > I use my comfortable Windows 10 machine. > As I've mentioned before, I always wanted to use a Mac, and so I suppose I'm > still in the grips of my honeymoon with it. > Interesting, though, I still count on having my Windows PC around, and so > maybe I'll always have one. > I will say that Window-Eyes going out of support was the trigger event which > caused me to buy my Macbook Pro, as I sought to diversify my accessibility > toolbox, and even to expand out of the Windows world, just incase I needed > to access websites which Windows screen readers might have trouble with. > Safari on the Mac has proven to be very robust in my web work, even though I > had some challenges up to quite recently. > However, I've learned the little tricks and the special hotkeys necessary to > access all of the different parts of web pages, and so now my browsing > competence on the Mac is on par with that on Windows with Firefox, whether I > use Window-Eyes or NVDA or Narrator. > Anyway, I'll leave off for now, and wish all of us well as we navigate this > very technical world in which we find ourselves. Smile > > All the best, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of George Savory via Talk > Sent: August 23, 2018 7:45 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: George Savory <[email protected]> > Subject: ChromeBook Accessibility > > How good is a ChromeBook with web accessibility? > > On 8/23/18, George Savory <[email protected]> wrote: >> Listers, >> Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be >> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using >> VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if >> Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I >> won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an >> upgrade >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=RjLn2ZSdOcxPGxPHdTXtZlKu6JrDb5MISEpViznHyZ4%3D&reserved=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=1fspJd331q0mCEuw3gK%2FXzRTsbCo0XJmcQMnw8x84lI%3D&reserved=0 > List archives can be found at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=qG2ZsB7lWU2byd9do5tnmez%2B9VCtEi4XgoJtIk1AzjU%3D&reserved=0 > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gsavory%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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