Hi George, Yes, the Mac Mini is a good choice at $450 US. I think you’ll be very happy with it. I recommend the apple Magic keyboard with numeric keypad since it has dedicated navigation keys.
Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Aug 24, 2018, at 12:52 PM, George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Rod, > I agree with you. I am very comfortable using VoiceOver on my iPhone. > The support is robust just as on Windows. > Using Jaws or Win-Eyes on travel websites, you must select the month > and day of travel. This process was easy using VoiceOver on my iPhone. > It was frustrating with Jaws or Win-Eyes on my desktop. I am sure > support would have been there if Win-Eyes was still around. > Thanks, I will look into the mini Mac. > >> On 8/24/18, Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: >> Hi George, >> >> I can't speak to ChromeOS, but, getting back to the matter of Macs, I'm not >> sure what you mean by websites that use calendars. >> As for keeping track of personal calendar events and reminders, I find my >> iPhone a breeze with Siri, such that I don't have to use anything else but >> my voice, since I have learn how Siri thinks and how to edit everything even >> when I make mistakes. >> Of course, I always have the option of editing the calendar and reminders >> manually with the touch screen, but this is not very often, now that my >> scheduling system is all set up. >> As for a Mac computer and the screen reader, at $449 US, you really can't go >> wrong picking up a Mac Mini, although many complain about it being an >> out-of-date machine. >> I see now that I went a bit overboard in buying a Macbook Pro, since, for >> me, a Mac Mini would have done the job just fine. >> The Mac Mini is simply an aluminum tower which lies flat in the footprint of >> a regular size apple pie, and then all you need is a keyboard and a monitor >> whose role could be filled nowadays by most flat-screen TVs and an HDMI >> cable. >> They come standard with a 500 GB spinning hard drive, and VoiceOver works >> fine with this setup. >> Admittedly, navigating the macOS and editing documents is quite a different >> experience, insofar as each control you want to use is not immediately in >> focus as we are accustomed to in Windows, requiring a repetitive process of >> interacting and un-interacting with each control. >> Personally, I have chosen to push myself to get comfortable with macOS, >> seeing the benefits of being in the Apple ecosystem even with my PC. >> It all comes down to what you want for yourself, and what you believe about >> the manufacturers you want to associate with, and, in this light, I don't >> think there are any right or wrong answers. >> My wife jokes with me that I always seem happier when I use my Mac than when >> I use my comfortable Windows 10 machine. >> As I've mentioned before, I always wanted to use a Mac, and so I suppose I'm >> still in the grips of my honeymoon with it. >> Interesting, though, I still count on having my Windows PC around, and so >> maybe I'll always have one. >> I will say that Window-Eyes going out of support was the trigger event which >> caused me to buy my Macbook Pro, as I sought to diversify my accessibility >> toolbox, and even to expand out of the Windows world, just incase I needed >> to access websites which Windows screen readers might have trouble with. >> Safari on the Mac has proven to be very robust in my web work, even though I >> had some challenges up to quite recently. >> However, I've learned the little tricks and the special hotkeys necessary to >> access all of the different parts of web pages, and so now my browsing >> competence on the Mac is on par with that on Windows with Firefox, whether I >> use Window-Eyes or NVDA or Narrator. >> Anyway, I'll leave off for now, and wish all of us well as we navigate this >> very technical world in which we find ourselves. Smile >> >> All the best, >> >> Rod >> >> Sent from Outlook for Windows >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On >> Behalf Of George Savory via Talk >> Sent: August 23, 2018 7:45 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> Cc: George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com> >> Subject: ChromeBook Accessibility >> >> How good is a ChromeBook with web accessibility? >> >>> On 8/23/18, George Savory <gsav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Listers, >>> Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be >>> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using >>> VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if >>> Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I >>> won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an >>> upgrade >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=RjLn2ZSdOcxPGxPHdTXtZlKu6JrDb5MISEpViznHyZ4%3D&reserved=0. >> For subscription options, visit >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=1fspJd331q0mCEuw3gK%2FXzRTsbCo0XJmcQMnw8x84lI%3D&reserved=0 >> List archives can be found at >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=qG2ZsB7lWU2byd9do5tnmez%2B9VCtEi4XgoJtIk1AzjU%3D&reserved=0 >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fgsavory%2540gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=KE52zZC36s%2Bw%2FnuDD03FpFHKDFhtUjR5lwIIxL%2Fh6O4%3D&reserved=0. >> For subscription options, visit >> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=hKVkxJpf8VqSMTCGu2s6iqfrArIY%2F97KhZhtyPR9wPw%3D&reserved=0 >> List archives can be found at >> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=BVzjUHTV7wMTghfbsN6lEsaoiwLGqorkaG8678mQIqo%3D&reserved=0 >> _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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