. If you are up to date on your JAWS then the $120 SMA is for  two years of 
upgrades. I use Windows 10 and I never buy virus protection software. The 
Windows defender has served me well.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darrell Bowles via Talk 
  To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Darrell Bowles 
  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 3:02 PM
  Subject: RE: Trying to decide


  Narrator has gotten much better. Problem with it though is if you are going 
to use  chrome, it won't work. You can also take your windows 10 s device out 
of s mode, but you can't return it to s mode  once it's out. As far as JAWS and 
the 90 dollar price tag, it beats  paying $120.00 but it doesn't beat the cost 
of NVDA wich is um, well no cost. 
  I use both JAWS and NVDA for my job, so I use both of them.
  Narrator also works well with he office suite so if you are not going to use 
anything outside of edge and internet explorer, you are good there too.

  Hope this helps,
  Darrell

  -----Original Message-----
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Brenda via Talk
  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 2:47 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>; Window Eyes 
Users <[email protected]>
  Cc: Brenda <[email protected]>
  Subject: Trying to decide

  Good afternoon lists,

  There are some really good deals on HSN and QVC for windows 10 laptops as 
well as iPads and Fire tablets.  I'm trying to decide what to do...

   From what I'm finding, Narrator is getting better - does anyone have any 
comments/input?

  There is an HP Stream laptop with Windows S which requires no virus 
protectionAlthough I have a Lenovo Win 10 machine, this deal is very tempting. .

  Jaws is going to be a subscription-based program so I will have to pay $90a 
year to keep it updated. If Narrator works well, it is included in Windows so I 
can use the $90 for other things like maybe Office 360

  The HP laptop with Windows S would also eliminate the cost of antivirus 
software not to mention the issues with accessibility for the antivirus 
programs.

  I am also considering just getting an iPad so I have a back-up if something 
happens to my phone, but then I'd have to back the iPhone and iPad up to 
something so I could move stuff from my phone to the ipad -- I get stressed out 
when I have to deal with that. also, iPads seem to only last a few years before 
 the iPad is no longer ubdateable.

  I really don't want to try to learn how to use a Fire tablet, and I doubt the 
accessibility is as good as Apple or Microsoft

  Just hopeing to get people's thoughts. Really hoping Narrator is working so I 
can lose Jaws. I know NVDA is an option, but that is one more thing to learn 
and why  bother if Narrator has improved enough.

  Thanks for any input,
  brenda
  Still mourning the loss of Window-Eyes in Ashtabula, Ohio

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