There was a Facebook thread where Larry Lewis from flying blind said sma’ are 
$199, but someone at VFO or whatever they’re called now said it is only $120 
for two SMA uses.
$120 for two years isn’t bad until they raise the prices, and it would Buy me 
some time before I have to make a big decision.

At least then jurors would last until windows seven expires. I already gave up 
window eyes and I really don’t want to give up Windows 7 until I have to.
Dictated and sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Loy Green via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> .. If you are up to date on your JAWS then the $120 SMA is for  two years of 
> upgrades. I use Windows 10 and I never buy virus protection software. The 
> Windows defender has served me well.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Darrell Bowles via Talk 
>  To: bjn...@windstream.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>  Cc: Darrell Bowles 
>  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 3:02 PM
>  Subject: RE: Trying to decide
> 
> 
>  Narrator has gotten much better. Problem with it though is if you are going 
> to use  chrome, it won't work. You can also take your windows 10 s device out 
> of s mode, but you can't return it to s mode  once it's out. As far as JAWS 
> and the 90 dollar price tag, it beats  paying $120.00 but it doesn't beat the 
> cost of NVDA wich is um, well no cost. 
>  I use both JAWS and NVDA for my job, so I use both of them.
>  Narrator also works well with he office suite so if you are not going to use 
> anything outside of edge and internet explorer, you are good there too.
> 
>  Hope this helps,
>  Darrell
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Talk <talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf 
> Of Brenda via Talk
>  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 2:47 PM
>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Window Eyes 
> Users <windoweyesus...@groups.io>
>  Cc: Brenda <bjn...@windstream.net>
>  Subject: Trying to decide
> 
>  Good afternoon lists,
> 
>  There are some really good deals on HSN and QVC for windows 10 laptops as 
> well as iPads and Fire tablets.  I'm trying to decide what to do...
> 
>   From what I'm finding, Narrator is getting better - does anyone have any 
> comments/input?
> 
>  There is an HP Stream laptop with Windows S which requires no virus 
> protectionAlthough I have a Lenovo Win 10 machine, this deal is very 
> tempting. .
> 
>  Jaws is going to be a subscription-based program so I will have to pay $90a 
> year to keep it updated. If Narrator works well, it is included in Windows so 
> I can use the $90 for other things like maybe Office 360
> 
>  The HP laptop with Windows S would also eliminate the cost of antivirus 
> software not to mention the issues with accessibility for the antivirus 
> programs.
> 
>  I am also considering just getting an iPad so I have a back-up if something 
> happens to my phone, but then I'd have to back the iPhone and iPad up to 
> something so I could move stuff from my phone to the ipad -- I get stressed 
> out when I have to deal with that. also, iPads seem to only last a few years 
> before  the iPad is no longer ubdateable.
> 
>  I really don't want to try to learn how to use a Fire tablet, and I doubt 
> the accessibility is as good as Apple or Microsoft
> 
>  Just hopeing to get people's thoughts. Really hoping Narrator is working so 
> I can lose Jaws. I know NVDA is an option, but that is one more thing to 
> learn and why  bother if Narrator has improved enough.

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