i don't know, i run as a standard user.
but i have to load w e as administrator when a program i load requires to run as administrator.
but even then the time and date keys still work in this mode.
when i copied my backup w e default folder back i did this in my standard windows account and left the administrator account alone because it still works. grin.

-----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 1:50 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: my set files changed.

Hi,

It just occurred to me what must have happened.
Somehow the All Users Profile must have become active.
You know, this is the one which is available when you run WE as Administrator and then you can switch to it in the Profiles node. Unless you uninstalled the Insert-key layout app from the All Users Profile, it would still exist in your installation of WE, just waiting for an inadvertent switch to the All Users Profile.
Well, that's my two-cents worth, Canadian currency. Smile

All the best,

Rod

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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: December 2, 2018 1:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

i replaced my w e default folder with my backup folder and it is working again.
i always turn everything off  with a power strip when  i go to bed.  there were
a few times when the computer turned itself on, even with a complete shutdown.
at least no one can hack my computer when it is off. they can
in sleep mode if the power strip is still turned on.
no risk of the computer power supply catching on fire while i am asleep.
extending the life of the computer and the bearings in the fans. etc.



-----Original Message----- From: David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: David
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

Jst for the fun, in all this playing around, did you try restarting your
computer? Have seen a few cases, where some behavior sticks, and once
the computer has been restarted, things work normally again. Just be
aware, I am talking about a real restart, not just going in and out of
sleeping or hibernation mode. Worth to keep in mind, should you run into
a similar case later on.


David

On 12/2/2018 2:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Very strange. But I'm glad you were able to get it back in line.
Regards,
Tom


On 12/2/2018 2:36 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:
i re installed the wineyes and global factory set files with no
change. then i copied my backup default folder from 2 days ago and it
is working now.
thanks.

-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 9:21 PM
To: net bat via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

Very strange; especially be it that you can change it and it works and
when you change it back to Insert+T it speaks the title.
Just for the heck of it I'd try turning apps off. If that doesn't work
I'd try assigning Insert+T to something else and see if it works there.
Good luck,
Tom


On 12/1/2018 10:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
nope, this didn't make any difference.
the time date hot keys are set to global andinsert t.
but they are doing the same thing as the control shift t keys for
program titles.
i did find out if i change the time and date hot keys to other keys
it will work and when i oput it back to insert t it speaks the
program title again. there were no warnings that another hot key was
assigned when i put it back.

-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:47 PM
To: net bat via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

Check the Keyboard > Layouts and make sure it's set to Window-Eyes
defaults. There were also some JAWS and I think other keyboard layouts
included in a script with hot keys to turn them on, which I did exactly
once by accident before uninstalling those scripts.
This is why I uninstall all scripts I'm never going to use.
Hth,
Tom


On 12/1/2018 9:17 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
this is a weerrd one.
w e the last version.
all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying
default
normal instead.
i didn't make any changes to any of the set files.
it is doing this when running any program.
in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure
this out.
rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't
have to
reset the factory set files.
thanks
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