The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that message
since I stopped using window eyes.
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From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about foreground staging
Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I
appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out.
Take care,
Carol
On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's
strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the
mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy
anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing
WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart.
Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest
problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time.
Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than
not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my
moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well,
maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out.
Carol
On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I
said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting
a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing.
I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I
can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what
"enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the
Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system
tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab
order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window
is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized
to the tray.
All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes
scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground
staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a
script to stomp on it. Smile.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again
today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside
the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground
staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on
the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report.
The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I
could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys,
which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was
that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop
when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was,
WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a
few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground
staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go
away for a while if I restart WE.
Carol
On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi carol,
I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem
with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just
hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't
come back.
I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I
connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what
I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come
up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and
it's gone.
I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is
that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with
MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just
shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper
hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window.
All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do
things. Hopefully you'll find one that works.
Good luck,
Tom
On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted
and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to
move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE
would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would
say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up,
but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did
solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and
the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did,
although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now
listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end
of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read
first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now,
there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I
have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the
files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin.
Carol
On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging
screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop
up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I
only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or
having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb
drive.
All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if
that's what you use. It's all I do.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in
Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I
can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the
desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that
folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks
for any help.
Carol
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