Hi Tom,
I really liked your message. So far, I haven't had the staging issue
for a couple of days. Of course, I haven't been on the computer much,
either, grin. Take care.
Carol
On 4/3/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
The plot thickens.
The theme to the Pink Panther begins playing.
And Inspector Clouseau is on the job.
On 4/3/2019 4:11 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Yes, Window-Eyes is the only one that is reading it, but neither of
the others will read anything if the foreground staging screen is open.
Carol
On 4/3/2019 9:12 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that
message since I stopped using window eyes.
-----Original Message----- From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about foreground staging
Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I
appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out.
Take care,
Carol
On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing
them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for
you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this
crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a
while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as
long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the
most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or
three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when
alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I
land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and
won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a
month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out.
Carol
On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window.
As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was
after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing.
I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either.
But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't
know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something
in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in
the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel
isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say
this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it
actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray.
All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the
Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of
the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it
is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came
bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f
drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play
and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there
was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of
interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp
screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate
through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which
confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was
that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the
desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling
me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on."
This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same
time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least,
the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I
restart WE.
Carol
On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi carol,
I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real
problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I
get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing.
It's gone and doesn't come back.
I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I
connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste
what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it
might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I
just Windows+D and it's gone.
I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know
anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this
problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is
that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels
instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a
screen reader, it's still a window.
All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you
do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works.
Good luck,
Tom
On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I
wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the
files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was
already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except
the title bar read command would say "foreground staging."
Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I
already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the
problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and
the person there did not know what I was talking about. He
did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files
are now listed. You know how the item number is normally
spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the
number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files
listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I
want to read down through a list, I have to use the right
arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well,
I guess one gets what they pay for, grin.
Carol
On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground
staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again.
Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly
hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the
desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the
desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive.
All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M
if that's what you use. It's all I do.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging
screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the
manner that I can not read anything else except the title
bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder,
but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground
staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help.
Carol
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