That's right. And just to clarify any misunderstandings. In my initial message I was not sure exactly what term to use for the behavior I described. Probably I chose a less clear term, since it was misinterpretted to mean the feature of Windows, named sticky keys. That one, is a "wanted" feature, something you deliberately will have the chance of turning on. And something that you will activate by either holding down the right shift for a few seconds, or pressing it repeatedly three times within a limited period of time.
What I was describing, is when things get stuck without you wanting, initiating or intending it to. Another thing is that the Sticky Key function in Windows, will only work for one keystroke at a time. When you turn it on, you will have to press say the shift-key, then a character, to have that one capitalized. Next time you want a capitalized character, you first have to touch the shift-key. You have to repeat that procedure for every keystroke you want with any modifying key. Again, the issue I was talking about, is when you do press no key-modifier, and still they stick or hang. Meaning that every key you press, will be interpretted as if you had pressed it along with a key-modifier. May it happen, that a better term for that is Hanging Keys. Sorry for whatever misunderstanding I caused. David On 1/7/2020 3:39 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: > to turn off sticky keys type sticky keys in the search box and in > settings you can unchecked use shortcut key to use sticky keys. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "madl--- via Talk" > <[email protected]> > To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 9:24 AM > Subject: RE: Key Sticking in WinEyes > > >> Hello, >> It seem to be many Jaws user having the same problem. It is possible >> that >> is problem cause by Jaws. I am not sure how to make them aware of the >> issue. Couple week ago I was able to demonstrate the problem to one >> of the >> tech support but, he simply ignored that, blame it the keyboard. >> Anyone has any Idea? >> Thanks >> >> P.S. >> I don't think we all have sticky keyboard issue. >> Moe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <[email protected]> On >> Behalf >> Of Amanda Lee via Talk >> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 1:26 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> >> Cc: Amanda Lee <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: Key Sticking in WinEyes >> >> I've experienced this issue in JAWS as well and have had to kill WE >> or JAWS >> from the task manager. Sometimes Outlook hangs too and seems to >> create this >> issue. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> <[email protected]> On >> Behalf >> Of madl--- via Talk >> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 12:26 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Key Sticking in WinEyes >> >> Hello, >> I have a new keyboard which I purchased two weeks ago and I >> thought this >> will solve my problem. In my case I don't think the keys are sticking >> physically. I didn't have this problem until recent update from MS. >> For >> now, when I have this issue, I go to taskbar then to desktop. That >> fixs >> the problem for a while . >> >> Thanks >> >> Moe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <[email protected]> On >> Behalf >> Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk >> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 10:10 AM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Key Sticking in WinEyes >> >> That is different. "sticky keys", when it says that in windows, when >> you >> press a key more than once fast, is made so that people can type with >> one >> hand. So that if they need to hit, say, control something, they can >> hit the >> control, and it will stay registered until you hit the key that goes >> along >> with it in order to do a certain function. That doesn't have to do with >> keys getting stuck. Mine, though, is an actual key that gets stuck, >> when I >> least expect it. It's the righthand shift key that gets stuck. Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: madl--- via Talk >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 9:44 AM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Key Sticking in WinEyes >> >> Hello all, >> I am having the same issue with window key,ALT key , control key. I >> thought it is my keyboard. I got a new one. That didn't solve the >> issue. >> It something with MS window. If you press shift key five times in >> the row, >> you will hear something like sticky key but, I am not sure what I >> need to >> do to stop it. This function was added for people that don't have >> ability to >> type with both hands. Please let me know if anyone find a solution. >> Thanks >> >> Moe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <[email protected]> On >> Behalf >> Of Butch Bussen via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 11:57 PM >> To: David via Talk <[email protected]> >> Cc: Butch Bussen <[email protected]>; WE English Mailinglist >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Key Sticking in WinEyes >> >> I have had theis problem once in a while for years. Something >> strange in >> wineyes. Sometimes reloading a different set file will solve the >> problem. >> Often as you said, just restarting wineyes solves the problem. >> I've never found a way to make it happen, some times it just does. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> On >> Mon, 6 Jan 2020, David via Talk wrote: >> >>> Have suspected this for a little while, and now I am pretty sure. Do >>> not know the fix, neither the reason why things happen. >>> >>> It is a known fact, that sometimes a key could get mechanically stuck >>> in its pressed position. The Shift, Alt and Ctrl keys are specially >>> vulnerable to this kind of behavior. This of course, do cause a load >>> of strange things to happen. You type an F, and up comes the File-menu >>> of the software; since the computer registers the keystroke as an >>> Alt-F. It is all due to dirt and grease, getting into your keyboard >>> over >> time. >>> Even small objects - like tiny screws or the like, that might have >>> fallen down on your keyboard at any time, might have got underneath >>> your key-caps and eventually causes funny things like this. >>> >>> The remedy for all of this behavior, is to press your Alt,Ctrl and >>> Shift keys several times. Usually that will release whatever has got >> stuck. >>> >>> But once in a while, I have had things getting stuck, and no >>> solution.The big remedy then, has been to restart the computer. >>> Apparently, this has been due to some issue more of the software-based >>> kind. It just has been to determine what software could cause the >>> situation. Like I stated initially, I do not have the final answer. >>> Yet, for several weeks, I suspected WinEyes to play a role. When the >>> sticky thing comes around, I will typically experience the Ctrl key >>> being stuck. Everything I try to do, is performed as if I had kept my >>> Ctrl-key pressed. Funny thing is, if I open NVDA, the issue is gone. >>> This morning, when the issue again took place, I decided to do a bit >>> of >> testing. >>> >>> First I thought it could be due to an app in my screen reader's >>> collection. So when the issue started, I tried to get to the WinEyes >>> ControlPanel. Physically pressing Ctrl-Backslash, had absolutely no >>> effect, which quite often happens. Alt-Tabbing to the panel, is out of >>> question, since I have WinEyes set to automatically hide from the >>> Alt-Tab list. So the only way now, was to go to the Taskbar, and press >>> Enter on WinEyes. Sure enough, the panel came up, and I went to the >>> App-menu, and turned off all apps. Then back to my internet working, >>> attempting to perform some browse mode commands. Pressing C, to get to >>> the next Combo box, had no effect. Pressing T, for next Table, only >>> opened a new tab in my browser. And pressing other navigation letters, >>> caused whatever funny and somehow interesting things to take place. >>> was almost like a new computer game. hahaha. >>> >>> Allright, as I told you, things like this happens every now and then. >>> And normally, opening NVDA will fix the issue. Though now, I decided >>> not to walk the normal lane. On the contrary, I alt-Tabbed back to the >>> WinEyes panel, and hit Alt-F4. The screen reader closed itself down, >>> all well. I then restarted WinEyes, using a hotkey combination of my >>> choice, which does not include any of the standard modifier-keys. This >>> way, i am sure no Ctrl, Alt or Shift key was pressed, during the close >>> down or restarting process of the screen reader. >>> >>> Do I have to tell you what was the result? Sure thing. WinEyes opened, >>> and the sticky Ctrl key has gone for vacation. No touching of the Ctrl >>> neither on the left or right side of the keyboard. Neither on my >>> laptop's built-in keyboard, or on the attached USB one, did I touch >>> any Ctrl-key. All I did, was to restart WinEyes. >>> >>> Since turning off all apps did not solve the problem, and due to the >>> fact that restarting the screen reader did take care of the trouble - >>> I am left to draw the conclusion that something strange sits in the >>> core code of WinEyes. Could it be some coding that - under given >>> situations - will poke its nose out, and conflict with some activity >>> of other software? Might it happen, that some residues from other >>> software might have caused this to come up? Or, could it be in one of >>> the apps, and who knows why WinEyes is unable to wipe it out, even >>> when all apps are being turned off? Since restarting the screen reader >>> is all it takes, it seems something just needs to be nullified. >>> Something that the screen reader does, through its initialization. Or, >>> something that it manages to close down, whenever the screen reader is >> being unloaded altogether. >>> >>> Restarting the screen reader is not all that much of a go, if that is >>> all it takes to solve a frustration. Still, i did wonder, if any of >>> you have had the same experience, or something similar. OK, still >>> under Win7 for a moment, so not sure if this is something that might >>> have been cared for in later flavors. The issue has been going on for >>> years, but seems to me, to take place more frequent lately. >>> >>> Just for the record, I do not exactly blame this on WinEyes. I just >>> wonder if something in the screen reader, along with whatever other >>> activity is ongoing on my computer, could get in conflict and cause >>> this issue. One of the big challenges for software developers, that >>> one. Your coding is perfectly well done, but other pieces of software >>> do not tie in smoothly, and you are left with the challenge of >>> figuring why; and how to prevent your software from getting into that >> troublesome corner. >>> Why i even wonder if one of the apps, could cause something to get >>> stuck, even to the extent, it will still stick when the app is >>> turned off. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shell >> >> world.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/madl%40comcast >> >> .net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40 >> >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/madl%40comcast >> >> .net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi >> >> se777%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/madl%40comcast >> >> .net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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