Larry, I know what you are talking, and among other things, it's one of the reasons why I don't use Jaws much. As one of the others pointed out, it might to a certain degree depend on the synthesizer. But like you stated, you have tested several synths, and the many settings. Have to admit, that even under WinEyes I have seen the behavior with certain, less known synths. One of my synths here, has the breaks you would expect to have at the period, ehenever it comes to a comma. And likewise, when it comes to a comma, it will only have the pausing that you normally would have at the end of a phrase. This all causes the narrating to make long pauses in the middle of the phrase, and almost no pausing between the sentences - meaning tthat you many times loose the mainpoint in thhhhhhhhhhhe text.
Afraid I do not have much other comfort here, but letting you know you are not alone. And it is most likely the result of sluggish handling, in the synth, just as much as in the screen reader. By the way, I do see it even under the TalkBack with Android, combined with some synths. Agreed, with Jaws it seems to be the case with all synthesizers, leading me to conclude that the screen reader does not communicate well enough with the synths - or, could it be that I just have not tested the right synths. Smiles. If you want to read books, and you really want to put a bit of resources into the project, I would suggest you check out the shareware named TextAloud, manufactured by Nextup.com. It will leave you numerous ways of tayloring your reading experience. You have many adjustments for speed, and pausing. You can, if you want the extra job, have given parts of a text read out with an alternative voice, like whatever is enclosed in parenthesis, or quotations. All you need is the TextAloud software, and one or more SAPI voices. Nextup sells you what you need, and offers you high-end voices, like the Ivona and Vocalizer ones - all to affordable prices. The software developing team is well aware of screen reader users, hence the software has setups for you and me. Smiles. And, they are quick and friendly in helping you out, should you send them a message. Best of all, you even get the chance of converting your text files into MP3s, that you can actually generate your personalized audiobook of t he the file, and replay it on your portable player wherever you want. Even if you want to split a long text into individual smaller files, like if you want each chapter of your book to be in its own file, it has helpful features to perform such automatically, in a rather short and intuitive manner. OK, so it does not solve your issue, when browsing the net, or sorting your mailbox. But it would greatly help you out, when you invest a bit of setup, for your next book or long document. Personally I have read several books by the use of it, and got such used to the electronic voice, that I even started to put the human modulation into it, in my mind. Hope this gave you something, even if it hardly was any real answer to your initial query. ________________________________ From: Talk <[email protected]> on behalf of Larry Higgins via Talk <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 12:17 PM To: WindowEyes List <[email protected]> Cc: Larry Higgins <[email protected]> Subject: JAWS and read-all To whomever might be left to read this, I hope that you might have some suggestions, or at least observations on what I consider to be almost a deal-breaking issue when it comes to re-upping my annual subscription to JAWS. BTW, I have brought this to the attention to JFW list members, but have received no satisfactory answers. This issue is the way that JAWS and its say-all feature paces its reading of any document, no matter what synthesizer might be being used. I like to call it "reading rhythm." When reading, the phrasing is rushed in my opinion, meaning that the ends and beginnings of sentences are so close together that it is hard for me to process what went before before I've had a chance to mentally prepare myself for the next phrase, or sentence, whichever might present itself while reading. I do not have this issue with WE. WE has a pleasant reading pace-rhythm. I have tried all of the settings provided in the say-all options, but none of them restore that kind of rhythm, not to my liking. On another list, when I occasionally have to make mention of Window-Eyes, I get the old song and dance about giving up Window-Eyes (an end of life product) in favor of the latest screen reading product, and I would do just that if I could find a way around this kind of unpleasant style of reading. This really does take away from my enjoyment of reading with my PC. If anybody who might be left is of the same opinion, or has any ideas as to how to get around this rather vexing issue, please respond ASAP <smile>. Your solidarity, not to mention wisdom will be gratefully appreciated. Sincerely, Larry PS. I will observe, that NOAA Weather stations do not use the JFW style when presenting weather info, so why should I have to put up with this as a blind computer user and voracious PC book reader? _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. 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