On Jan 29, 2008 12:13 PM, Michael Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:59 AM 1/29/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I wrote the following two weeks ago because I felt that the talk list > >was a bit flooded by administrative "voting ends", "voting opens", > >"comments requested" etc. messages: > > > > > would it make sense to create a new mailing list - say > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or so - to which all tag proposals and > > > requests for comments/votes could be directed, and reclaim talk@ for > > > informal community chat? > > > >At the time, I thought we had somewhat of a consensus that we should > >either create an extra list or have one condensed "voting issues" > >posting per week (or so). > > > >Alas, not much has changed since then, so I repeat the suggestion: > >Let's create an extra list for formal aspects of tagging discussions. > > I usually agree with everything Frederick says, which saves me a lot > of time not writing to the list, but this time politely > disagree. I'd say hold off for several months at least. The formal > conversation carries on the Wiki page anyway, why have the headache > of another list and formal administration? > > - Tagging is still relatively immature and still goes off in > unexpected directions which impact how and where OSM develops. It is > therefore an important part of the general buzz of OSM and therefore > belongs on the main list. > > - Announcing RfCs/voting on the main list has really breathed life > into getting the effort of getting a progressively coherent, > harmonious global core tag set that is at least partially > understandable in different countries. > > - It has been good to get at least the occasional involvement of > folks outside the 5 or 6 (?) hardcore. > > - The volume is not that high surely. In any case, it is artificially > high at the moment as Robin tries to clear the backlog. > > - If you are not interested in the specifics, hit delete - the > Subject carries the gist and the general message is usefully made. > I understand the hassle of creating a new list or doing the weekly round-up, and all the downsides of people not getting as involved etc. Can I suggest a compromise for the moment? What about if people starting the threads could include something obvious in the subject which would enable people to filter them out easily? I have a bunch of rules on my google filter to separate these mails out, but they're not very effective because there is no clear structure to the subject. I'd suggest something like: "[tagging] vote open for *****" Ulf has already been including [vote] and [RFC] in mail subjects, it would be nice to get something like this more ingrained. There isn't actually a lot of traffic from these mails, but they do cause a relatively massive number of threads which tends to drown out the rest of the list. Dave
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