This topic reminded me of some thoughts I had about time-based tagging but did not pursue. I have a professional interest in planned features but a leisure interest in historic features such as ancient roads. The OSM database could include both these types of feature but for general purposes the map should only show what is there now, not what used to be there but has gone or what may be there in the future. My thought was that there could be a time-based tag which would show the time-span of a feature. It might be called 'epoch=' and could indicate when a feature existed/will exist. Anything with an epoch which did not include today would not appear as standard, but a time-based viewer might allow users to 'scroll through time' seeing features appear/disappear as the viewer's epoch entered/left that of the features.

A difficulty is that there will usually be some uncertainty about the dates, so the tag grammar would need to take account of this. Sometimes the beginning or the end date will be unknown or there will be only the most approximate knowledge of a date, so the tag grammar must allow for various levels of accuracy and for incomplete epochs. One approach might be to use a grammar like from>to so a road due to open in December this year could be tagged epoch=12/2008> or an ancient track that fell out of use and disappeared in the 16th century might be tagged epoch=>C16. A feature that was known to exist for much of the 1700s but probably not before or after could be tagged epoch=C18 (implying from/to dates of 1700 and 1799) whereas a temporary path existing just for the duration of a construction project might be tagged epoch=12/03/2006>23/12/2006.

Features with no epoch tag (like pretty much everything in the map now) would default to 'now' and if the viewer left the present epoch to look back at past features or forward to planned features would show these against a dimmed backdrop of the present-day map. Such a viewer could use the standard bitmap tiles for the present-day background but would need to use vector data from the database for past/future features.

elvin

From: "Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 4 June 2008 08:54:53 BDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [OSM-talk] Enabling communities to use OSM as a planning tool


Lat night I attended a steering group meeting for my local Connect2 [1] project in north east Birmingham [2]. One of the things that the group could
benefit from is rapid response on mapping so that it can discuss route
options for the new cycle/walk routes to be built under the project. OSM is the logical tool to use for this process and I'm keen to show what we can do with the OSM data and the OSM platform to support the work. At the moment everything is done as overlays on Ordnance Survey 1:10,000 mapping, not an
ideal way to integrate ideas into the existing infrastructure.

This brings me to the point though. Currently we map physical features as they exist and in some cases the alignment of known construction, what we do not do is use OSM as a planning tool. What are people's views on this? It seems that OSM is an ideal platform for enabling communities to develop their own planning, without having to rely wholly on the GIS department of their Local Authority, it also makes publishing ideas so much easier without
the encumberment of the OS licence restrictions.

Anyway I'm going to give it a try here and come up with some logical tags so that the data does not get rendered by default unless a custom style sheet is deployed. But maybe the easiest was is to have the renders ignore data
that carries a specific tag. planning= perhaps?

I'd welcome some feedback.

Cheers

Andy

[1] www.connect2.org.uk
[2] www.connect2birmingham.org


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