robin paulson wrote: > the problem with this is that 'bus stop' (and canal mooring, etc,) > implies a place where the bus stops, which is on the road. > > the fact the bus shelter, or sign, or bench, is some distance off to the > side of the road shouldn't matter - the bus itself stops on the road, so > the node imo should be part of the way > > if the bus stop is off to the side of the road, i.e. not connected to > it, then the bus can't physically get to it, which seems very wrong > > or, consider from the pedestrian's point-of-view: > it is assumed for all roads except motorways and where explicitly > stated, that there is foot=yes access. in which case, the > footpath/sidewalk/pavement is therefore part of the way which represents > the road; we don't draw a separate way off to one side, running > parallel. the bus stop must be on the footpath for the pedestrian to be > able to walk up to it, so again it must be part of the way > > this problem is i think muddled by the fact we represent an area (a > road) with a linear object (a way), which theoretically has zero width, > so the natural step from this is to say: > 'the way represents the centre of the road, and the bus stop/canal > mooring is not in the centre of the road, it's at the side of the road, > so I'll put it to one side of the way' > > as for placing the node to one side of the way in order to get the icon > to be placed correctly, this sounds a lot like 'tagging for the renderer'
Part of it depends. In Ireland, bus stops are frequently marked with a sign on the path. This post is not on the road, it is on the path. I place the node where that post is on the ground (usually using Yahoo Imagery and local knowledge). For example here's a bus stop near where I used to live: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.357268&lon=-6.423311&zoom=18&layers=B00FTF It's basically on the corner of a few roads. Remember there are relations for bus routes, they include the bus stops and the ways that make up the route. They can be used to figure out where a bus will stop. With regards to house addresses, the Karlsruhe scheme has the (optional) "addr:street=*" tag, so you can associate those addresses with a street. I always use this. This is independent from left/right. Rory _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
