On 31 Jan 2009, at 11:57, Sven Rautenberg wrote:

Pieren schrieb:
The problem here is that Chriscf just wants to avoid that this tag is
used by others and never proposed some alternative solutions.

The current voting is 19 yes and 10 no.

If Chriscf cannot convince at least another 10 people to oppose this
proposal, he must face the fact that he has been overruled.

Chris: Organize more opposition, and nobody will complain about this tag
being rejected because too many people were against it. But do not put
your single vote above all others.

I have no particular opinion either way as to this tag, however on the subject of voting, is the current rule that 51% is enough to get approval? As time goes on I suggest we could raise the requirement. Possibly one would need at least 20 votes for and also at least 80% in favour. This would increase the need to consult and get a consensus. Of course... it might mean that no one bothers to get tags voted on, but that it also fine, it might result in it not getting rendered as quickly though.

Is it also worth getting an indication as to whether the coders of the rendering and routing engines actually intend to implement the proposed feature. I realise the process is meant to be easy even if it is messy, but a straight majority will allows tags to be adopted that are very controversial.

Possibly we also allow some tags 'on probation' and then pull them out if they don't get taken up within 6 months. On the subject of probation, here are some details about current usage of smoothness. This image shows who is tagging with this tag in Europe and where they are doing it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3241268304/

I total of 180 people have used the 'smoothness' tag in Europe and of those 18 have used it more than 20 times. The tag has been used only 21 times in the Americas and has not been used elsewhere in the world.

The following values have been used within Europe (including some typos)
value   way     node    total
bad     627     0       627
intermediate    622     0       622
good    559     0       559
excellent       233     0       233
very_bad        226     0       226
horrible        168     0       168
very_horrible   95      0       95
impassable      26      0       26
very bad        17      0       17
excelent        9       0       9
exellent        8       0       8
Bad     4       0       4
horible 1       0       1
catastrophic    1       0       1
empassable      1       0       1
very_good       1       0       1
yery horrible   1       0       1
very horrible   1       0       1


Regards,



Peter





Regards,
Sven

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