Sven Rautenberg wrote: > Richard Fairhurst schrieb: >> Frederik Ramm wrote: >>> the German community takes offence at user:chriscf's deletion >>> of the "smoothness" voting result from "approved features" and >>> moving it to "rejected features" in spite of of there having been >>> a proper vote with an "approved" outcome. >> Then the German community should come to this, non-localised mailing list >> and have the cojones to say so. > > Frederik as a member of the german community just did so. > > And if this is not enough for you: I take offense in chriscf's action as > well. No matter how much I like this tag, his action is simply unacceptable. > > And now? ... > >> Chris has had the courage of his convictions to stand up against an utterly >> ridiculous tag, thereby pointing out the flaws in a voting system which a >> lot of us are silently unhappy with. Good luck to him. > > Edit war on the wiki?
I think the main problem here is the fact that the MAJORITY of contributors do not have English as a first language, and so the original decision to make English the 'accepted standard' was the suspect one. And since English is my ONLY language I don't think I have any bias in this. The 'consensus' has supposedly been that all tags should be in English, so any tags not providing a clean English definition are - in theory - not acceptable. BUT there is no real control on how that rule is implemented? And since very few people get involved with votes, the core structure does seem to be under strain. I'd like to reinstate a proposal that I made some years ago, but which was shot down as not being acceptable 'XML'. The problem that I STILL see is translating some of the CORE tags between languages, so rather than having an English base, and translation tables, why not have a simple numeric entry against a tag for the APPROVED options on a tag? These would be locked down in some agreed way, and each language can have it's own interpretation of what a numeric tag signifies, but the rendering would be to an agreed format against the numbers - although I can see country specific aspects for local display such as selection of colour coding for roads, etc. RANDOM tag entries would still be allowed as plain text, but until a firm consensus appears they would not move to locked down entries. This still does not get around the problem of 'sub-tags' such as smoothness for road condition, but would allow the potential for more practical implementation of additional data such as 'road condition' and other areas where on the whole the local interpretation of something like that may be totally inappropriate in another country? While not wanting to propose a dictatorship, I do wonder if it isn't about time that we had a 'standards committee' with members elected from the different talk groups to have the final vote on what gets promoted from random text to supported - translated tag? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
