Nick Interesting to hear that Hampshire has this - so far Cheshire only has it for (vehicular) highway faults but wants to add PRoWs. I wasn't aware of your Freemap .... Clearly I need to go and take a look as a priority ... Sounds right up my street (if that isn't a bad pun).
Btw, I've been doing some further research and you may be reassured to know that the definitive maps for Cheshire PRoWs have a "relevant date" (a term with legal significance) of 1 November 1956 - so are out of copyright, even including the OS mapping itself. The exceptions to this are the City of Chester, which did its definitive map later and, of course, later amendments to the network (of most of which I am personally aware on the basis of personal knowledge and many of which I was involved in negotiating) - so I don't think I'm wrecking OSM with my Cheshire activities (:>) and I don't propose that I add path reference numbers outside of Cheshire. I'm still pretty convinced that OS would have a hard time making a case that the public need an OS licence to know the name or number given by a highway authority to identify a *public* *right* of way in order that the public can exercise their statutory rights with regard to that way. I've been in some pretty tough negotiations in my time (used to work a lot of the time in UN and EU meetings) but this one would take the biscuit! Of course, if we can get the LAs to use FreeMap in the way you describe that would be fantastic. I fear that in Cheshire their interactive mapping site is so established on the basis of OS mapping that it would be hard to get them to change - but it could be very attractive to cash-strapped authorities who have not yet gone so far down this road. I have found this exchange very useful - thanks for expressing your concerns as this forced me to think harder and dig deeper - even if I have yet to change my view! Mike -----Original Message----- From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 February 2009 13:33 To: Mike Harris Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging] Hello Mike, (cced to list in case of interest) >Incidentally, the next step that 'my' County Council is planning is to >enhance their public domain interactive mapping system (which acknowledges >that the *base* mapping is OS) by allowing any member of the public to click >on the map to report a problem with a public right of way (they already have >this working for highways on the list of streets - another public >domain database). No grid reference involved here - but I would myself >be concerned >that the 'clicker' is 'using' the base map to decide where to click. What's >the view on this? Hampshire also does this. But one of my plans for Freemap (shortly to be re-launched as OpenFootMap, all being well) is to add a nationwide "Fix My Paths" feature where users can use OSM-derived maps to report a problem with a path. In other words, they could click on the map, then the corresponding OSM way could be located in the database and they could tag the way with an issue. Councils could then potentially subscribe to an RSS feed of, or view a web page of, path issues reported through OpenFootMap. Users could also report the issues in the field using a mobile client (I already kind-of have code to do this). Nick _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
