Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> There's three categories to consider relating to existing data. > >> 1. People who have made edits and can't be contacted. >> 2. People who don't like ODbL and withdraw their data. >> 3. Large organisations. > > I have a fourth category to add: > > 4. People who don't dislike ODbL per se but dislike the manner in which > it was brought about, and thus feel rushed/excluded. People who make > sensible suggestions for improvement but see their suggestions brushed > away or simply ignored because this would just delay the license release > (which seems to be planned for 28th March), or people who have > legitimate concerns and find them answered with an "I don't know" from > the legal counsel and an "we'll press ahead anyway" from OSMF. > > Having a proper process that takes our project members and their > concerns seriously, rather than holding a gun to their heads and saying > "agree to this license or go away", is not only important for keeping as > much data as possible, it is also, in my eyes, a requirement of project > ethics. > > I can live with some data being lost. But I would like to avoid press > headlines like "20% of OpenStreetMap members quit over license row / > Disgruntled mappers say they feel ignored / Fake SteveC: 'Crisis? What > Crisis?'" - I think *that* kind of thing would hurt us more than having > to redraw a few villages.
FULL ACK!!! Personally I am feeling excluded from what's going on behind the scenes and I think this is not the way for a project that has "open" in his name ... There were only very few news on talk/talk-de available for such an important thing as a license change. A little bit more respect to the people that actually did the mapping work would probably be a very good idea. "We're only loosing 5% of the data" is a very, very strange attitude for me. Not because of the data but because of the people behind that data. I must say that this is the first time that I'm seriously thinking about to stop my effort with OpenStreetMap completely and I'm feeling very sorry about that. But I just won't continue to spend effort if OSM in the long run probably ends up as a commercial thing. You're probably not aware, but with the way the current license discussion is done you are spreading a lot of FUD on your own project :-( Just wanted to let you know how the current actions are received from people not being directly involved in legal talk ... Regards, ULFL _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
