On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer<[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/8/15 Roy Wallace <[email protected]>: >> Could the definition of "official" be simplified to "signed"?? If not, >> what would be the difference between bicycle=official and >> bicycle=signed? > > As I have understood, official is intended to tag the formal > dedication (usually of the local administration who decided to build > the way). In some cases there might be missing the sign, but it still > would be officially dedicated to be a xy-way.
The wiki says "'Official' is stronger than 'designated'...'Offical' is only for ways marked with a legal traffic sign". My question stands - I still don't see much of a difference between 'official' and 'signed'. > Bicycle=signed is IMHO not the best idea, because what do you do for > official or designated _and_ signed ways? As I mentioned before, you would have to change the syntax to something more like bicycle:designated=* and bicycle:official=*, bicycle:signed=*, etc. Alternatively, change the tag definitions so that the issue doesn't occur, or make one imply the other(s) - e.g. signed implies official implies designated (we do already have "'official' is stronger than 'designated'", so the latter is more or less already true). > Also I didn't get the difference of designated and official. Maybe you > can explain? I thought it was intended for the same situation. Please see the wiki. Eventually I gathered that official is what you think it means, whereas designated is more of a "recommendation" as in "this way is designed for *". The wiki definition makes only vague references to "signs", but then the examples all heavily reference signage. This IMHO is confusing. I don't like the current situation - but that is what we have at present. > There is people already using tags like this: > traffic_sign=DE:237 > to tag signs. If you put this on a way it would be clear that and how > a way is signed. Hmm. I think that is for tagging traffic signs, not for tagging ways. Basically, my main concern is that the examples on the wiki for the access=* tags extensively use traffic signs (which is a good thing!), but at the same time the access=* tag definitions make little explicit reference to signs. In other words, if a way is signed with, say, a picture of a bicycle and a picture of a pedestrian, I think it should be straightforward for a newbie mapper to know which access=* tags to use. At the moment, I think it's more confusing than it needs to be. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
