On 18 Aug 2009, at 09:17, Nick Black wrote:

John,

I said:
so if you can't make it but would like to, please add your name to the wiki so we can have a second call at a better time.

No-one is trying to exclude you - especially not the people who are trying set up local groups and make OSM and the OSM-F more inclusive :-) If there are people who want to take the call at a Australia/Asia/New Zealand friendly time, I've said that I'll go out of my way to make it and I'm sure some of the other Local Chapters volunteers will as well.

Please add your details to the wiki page, suggest some friendly times and we'll set up a call. Alternatively, organize the call yourself at any time you want and give you feedback to the Local Chapters group [email protected].

Would a 'local chapters' email list not be a great way to include people from all around the world on different time zones for to include those for whom English is a second language? A combination of email list and wiki allow people to work at a time of there convenience, gives people time to read and write at their own speed (using translation tools if necessary) and there is a full history of the discussion.

I suggest that conference calls and IRC are only used for those issues where email is not working or getting to an resolution on a difficult subject.

Regards,



Peter


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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 AM, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Nick Black <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chapters meetings.  You can find minutes here [1] along
> with information about the next meeting.

There seems to be more questions posed than answers in the minutes...

> The next meeting is proposed for the 24th August
> at 18.00 - 19:30 BST.  I know this is not great for a lot
> of people who are in non-BST friendly time zones, so if you
> can't make it but would like to, please add your name to
> the wiki so we can have a second call at a better
> time.

I did, but it didn't seem to make a difference, also there is at least one other person that would like to have been in the conference but wasn't an insomniac last night either.

> One of the goals of the meeting next week will
> be to set a timetable for getting local chapters set up,
> which will be largely dependent on how much we all agree /
> disagree in the call.  Until then, please read over the
> Local Chapters wiki page and add as many comments or ideas
> as possible, so we can discuss next week.

It's a bit exclusionary to state that and then already acknowledge that people can't make it due to time of day.






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