Having lived in England, America and Germany ...
In British English and avenue is usually used for a road (or sometimes another
way - e.g. in a park) that is lined with trees.
I agree with John's definition of the American English usage.
In German I agree with Robert that "alley" is a mistranslation ('false friend')
for "Allee", which I would normally translate into (British) English as
"avenue" - just as I would "puistotie" from Finnish (which is a more
descriptive term anyway - 'park road').
To confuse matters further, my feeling is that in French the word "allée" can
be translated - according to context - into the British English "avenue", the
American English "avenue" or the English "alley"!
Not quite sure about Chinese or Arabic (:>)
I don't especially like "tree-lined" - but at least it says what it means and
avoids the linguistic mess!
Mike Harris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John F. Eldredge [mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com]
> Sent: 03 November 2009 13:40
> To: Open Street Map mailing list
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads?
>
> Speaking as a non-German, I find "tree-lined" more specific.
> In American usage, "avenue" is just a synonym for "street" or
> "road", with no connotation of tree-lined or not tree-lined.
> An "alley" in American usage is a narrow service road,
> generally only one lane wide, used for low-speed access to
> the side or back of properties. It is distinguished from a
> driveway in that a driveway is on private land and generally
> gives access to just one property; an alley is on public
> property and generally gives access to multiple properties.
>
> --
> John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
> "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is
> better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert <rop...@online.de>
> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:54:32
> To: Talk Openstreetmap<talk@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads?
>
> Hello,
>
> We are discussing in talk-de (German board) just streets and
> other ways with many trees nearby.
>
> I found here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/tree_row
> alley=left/right/both
>
> I think the tag “alley” is a mistranslation (false friends)
> and 1. avenue or 2. tree-lined road is better for roads
> marked by trees.
>
> The tag alley is already used for highway=service;
> service=alley for narrow ways.
>
> I think the second version “tree-lined” or ”tree_lined” is
> better than “avenue”.
> With this key we can use it for other lines of trees, for
> example near railways, rivers and so on.
>
> At the moment this tag is probably only mainly used in Germany:
> http://osmdoc.com/de/tag/alley/#values
> comparison: http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Germany/De/tags.html
> key alley with values: both (251), right (27), left (26), yes (8)
>
> My questions:
> Would we like to change this tag?
>
>
> Robert
>
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