Hi all, I'm aware that this topic is somehow delicate, but I was quite astonished when I had a look at Cloudmade's Terms and Conditions http://cloudmade.com/terms_conditions
espescially Part 6: * ### 6. Ownership; Proprietary Rights.* As between the Parties, the CloudMade Site including the content, visual interfaces, interactive features, information, graphics, design, compilation, computer code, products, software, services, and all other elements of the CloudMade Site that are provided by CloudMade (but excluding the Map Data, which are governed solely under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 License<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/>) (*"CloudMade Materials"*) are owned and/or licensed by CloudMade. CloudMade Materials do not include Non-CloudMade Content (as defined below). Except as expressly authorized by CloudMade, you agree not to sell, license, distribute, copy, modify, publicly perform or display, transmit, publish, edit, adapt, create derivative works from, or otherwise make unauthorized use of the CloudMade Site or the CloudMade Materials. CloudMade reserves all rights not expressly granted in these Terms. User shall not acquire any right, title, or interest to the CloudMade Materials, except for the limited rights set forth in these Terms. ### The claim copyright on graphics and design and restrict just the map data to cc-by-sa. IMHO that inhebits e.g. that I take a screenshot of their map and put it on my website. Looking at the legal faq in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ "If I have data derived from OSM data, do I have to distribute it? The licence does not force you to distribute or make any data available. But if you do choose to distribute it, or anything derived from it, it must be under the same licence terms as the OSM data." I read this like cloudmade could use their maps for their own purposes without redistributing it, or they have to put their maps under cc-by-sa 2.0 as well. Or did I misunderstand something? cheers, Martin
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