On 11-02-20 11:54 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
Frank Steggink wrote:
I believe the average community opinion is more like: imports _are_ welcome, but _only_ if there are no better alternatives, and _only_ if a strict set of guidelines is followed (for example _not_ deleting better quality user contributed data).

I think that historical messages here show that there IS a majority anti-import stance in the community, but that's mainly because your two important provisos aren't often followed.

However, surely we're missing the important point here - that someone had "hours of work obliterated" by another person? There's a lesson that we can all take from this - to better respect other mappers' work and to try and understand what they're trying to do and how they're trying to do it. That might be by respecting "no import" or "no tracing" zones or it might be by working together in other ways - but we have to try and work with and not against each other on this.

Cheers,
Andy


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Andy,

Not everyone in the community is following OSM-talk, let alone commenting on discussions. There is surely a vocal minority against imports, like there is also a vocal minority against the upcoming license change. Yet, support for ODbL and the CT by pre-May 2010 users is growing, and yet imports are not rolled back large scale.

People tend to make themselves heard when they do not agree with something, not whenthey are content. So, the messages here have a certain bias.

I do agree that we should all respect the efforts of others. OSM is a collaborative effort. My response is mostly an attempt to counter the anti-import discussion. I find that what has happened in Aylmer is equally bad as the next person.

Frank


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