Come on Martin. Look, yes we can always, always be better at communication. But if we had a process like that we might have got to actually one day putting a new logo up. In the process with all the flames and the people screaming no, and all that, the people actually doing then work would get demoralized, like they are right now.
You should take it as a good sign there isn't some huge process and that you are as involved as anyone. I think jockru also said he wanted a blog post? Well he has access to opengeodata as much as we all do! :-) The process you outline is reasonable on a constructive list. This just isn't a constructive place a lot of the time. Instead of taking 8 weeks to have a process, let's treat it as 8 weeks where anyone can help fix these theoretical and technical logo issues. It's right there, anyone can help. So who's going to do it? Steve stevecoast.com On Apr 30, 2011, at 9:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/4/30 SteveC <st...@asklater.com>: >> You will also find discussion of this list in that meeting. If I had posted >> the new logo idea here before doing anything there would have been a >> gigantic discussion on it and nothing would happen. > > > I remember a different process when the foundation got its logo, and > it did happen. > > >> Any progress at all in any direction now means at least 5 or 10 people on >> this list don't like it. That makes it very hard for anyone to achieve >> anything without treating this list as noise. We need to get away from that. >> Any ideas appreciated. > > > It is not that people "don't like" the new logo, I would have expected > a process like: > > 0. Announce that you are going to change the logo in 4 (or 8) weeks. > 1. publish a link to the logo proposal > 2. get some comments > 3. implement (eventually) some of the conclusions > 4. you are satisfied or go to 1. > > cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk