Hi, On 14 June 2011 15:29, Jonas Krückel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Am 14.06.2011 um 14:29 schrieb davespod: > > http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/Navigon-Add-22-Million-POIs-To-SatNav-Devices--1060.php > > An interesting development. If I understand things correctly (and assuming > CC-by-SA holds water for data), they can charge for these derived data sets, > but they would still have to be CC-by-SA, and so anyone who bought one could > then redistribute without charge. Does that sound right? > > A note on this one for everyone not reading talk-de [1]: > Ulf Möller, who has been a member of the OSMF Board and is part of the LWG, > had been given a test device by Navigon in order to check for correct > attribution. > He was also asked by Navigon to distribute a text file [2] to the community > which contains some basic information about how Navigon processes the data, > links to download the packages for free (CC-BY-SA compliance AFAIK) and also > instructions on how to install these files on a device. > > P.S. If they have de-duplicated these, as they claim, perhaps it is worth > getting our hands on as a resource for cleaning up the database... > > > Well, it would be nice and we could certainly ask for it, but with CC-BY-SA > only the end product falls under the license and not the processed data in > between.
Are you sure? If we manage to extract the processed data, it'll be derived from either the end product or OSM or both, so it needs to be CC-By-SA too and there's no way around it. > Once we move on to ODbL however, this will change and we will get > the much more interesting 'raw' data. Which we can't re-use in OSM however. Someone on IRC mentioned that the situation would be clearer under ODbL, too, but I think this is a false positive. Additionally with ODbL Navigon may take the position that they made a produced work. Cheers _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

