On 6/22/2011 5:16 PM, David Murn wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:25 -0700, Steve Coast wrote:
Well there's one other aspect which is there are chunks of data only
available to OpenStreetMap and nobody else.
Does the data exclusively available under the ODbL outweigh the data
exclusively available under CC? Since not even OSM uses the ODbL yet, I
find it totally amazing that any other entity would be.
I think you need to think about the data that OSM derives from, like
aerial imagery.
Also..
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Coast wrote:
Why do you feel you have a liability?
Because I have used data from a source which cannot be relicenced. Id
feel the same way if Id taken OSM data and put it into another external
project, which was then planning to change its licence and take the OSM
data along with it.
Personally, I dont have a liability as I was aware early enough that my
contributions couldnt be relicenced. Unfortunately some people have
accepted the CTS without fully understanding that they didnt have the
rights to relicence the data. The fact of having each individual user
accept contributor terms, means that effectively you have passed the
liability directly onto the user who contributed the 'offending' data
rather than the foundation who refuse to remove the data in the first
place.
Do you have any legal opinion to support this?
Steve
David
On 6/22/2011 4:22 PM, David Murn wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 21:17 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I wonder what would happen if someone involved in running Google Map
Maker were to post a similar message. "Hey, don't like how things go in
OSM? Why not come to Google Map Maker where all license issues are solved!"
Except that
a) Map Maker never had any compatability with any version of OSM
b) Users who used OSM for the past few years dont necessarily want
licence issues 'solved' (especially if the only difference they see is a
degraded map)
c) fosm isnt a wholey different project in the same way MapMaker is.
fosm is a copy of OSM, and the two will parallel each other until the
time that OSM splits off with a new licence change. If you think of
fosm as the continuation and OSM as the fork with 'all licence issues
solved', youre more on-track to the situation
The day after the changeover occurs, the world will look at OSM and fosm
and theyll see one is a small subset of the other, until the time that
the main OSM project can come close to making up for the data that has
had to be removed. Joe user (especially Joe user who might use map
maker) doesnt give a rats about licence terms, all they care about is
seeing complete maps.
David
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