Nic wrote: > Basically all you are saying is that mailing lists are a bad way to > measure support. And I agree 100%. > > Can you prove that the average contributor thinks that the > benefits* of the ODbL exceeds the cost of > implementing it** ? Then I will personally start telling people that > they are in the minority and should go away. > > *: Looking at whitehouse.gov, the software on my phone etc, I can't > see a single thing that will change (either positive or negative). > > **: To implement it, we will have to delete some data. We are > bothering people by sending them email and if they do not respond, > we use facebook etc.
I doubt there are any average contributors on this list. I won't be staying much longer since my return the other day because there has been very little worth reading (perhaps even including this message I'm sending), and too much that wasn't that I regret wasting my time reading. But I had a look at fosm.org yesterday and they (whoever "they" are - is there a fosmf?) seem to be making the same mistake that osm.org did with the original CTs; should they ever need to relicense (say move from cc-by-sa 2.0 to 3.0) the data, then as far as I can tell they will need to contact all the contributors or themselves risk data loss. It would perhaps be better to have their CTs now such that it is clear that only active contributors will be contacted if such a change is required and what majority will be required for a change to happen. Perhaps this should be discussed on [email protected] when they get as far as setting up email lists. I'm also curious who counts as the contributor for all the stuff imported from OSM; presumably it counts as a single contributor's imports. Anyway, as this process has taken about 5 years so far I am glad it is reaching the end at last, and a small loss of data which with the rapid growth in the number of contributors should take little time to replace. Almost all of us here joined the project after it was clear that an attribution sharealike licence applied to our contributions, and now there is such a licence that covers the data, and CTs that make any future move from say ODBL 1 to ODBL2 less painful, that can only be a good thing. Oh, and another added benefit is that once we reach phase 5 I can probably come back on various OSM related email lists without all threads degenerating into license debates. Ed _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
