Mateusz Konieczny writes: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 01:54:20 -0400 > Russ Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why do you persist? You can't win, because you're wrong. > > Please, stop treating it as some zero-sum game. I am not trying to > "win".
You're arguing with me, and you don't expect to win the argument?? Why would you bother? In particular, it *is* a zero-sum game. If you get to delete abandoned railways, I don't get to see them in my own rendering or in OpenRailwayMap. > I am trying to ensure that editing of OSM will not be made > harder by presence of ways representing completely destroyed objects > or ridiculous relations containing features approximately following > track of former, no longer existing objects. That's the sticky problem: the railway still exists. Part of it may be an embankment, or a cut, or a bridge, or a straight line of trees, or a track. Part of it may go through a field where the farmer has plowed it away (but I can point you to fields where you can still see cinders). Part of it may go through a housing development (but I can show you tree lines where it went). Those latter two parts should be tagged railway=dismantled. > Editing OSM is already complicated, there is no good reason to make it > even harder by adding confusing features editable only by experts. Here's how to make it less hard: Don't delete things you didn't add. (Oh, and don't edit coastlines). Isn't that easy? Now, it's not always true, but it's a simple rule of thumb that will allow everyone to add their favorite thing to OSM, whether stores, park benches, fire hydrants, trees, cliffs, etc. Are there other problems that you fear will occur when people map all the parts of a railway? I'm thinking that maybe what we need is a censoring OSM API, where the people who would be confused by dismantled railways could say "I want the censored OSM", and then they wouldn't get any dismantled railways in their data download. -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

