On 07/02/2016 09:43, malenki wrote:
Why is there no explanation of it's meaning? After too much time
using google I find it means old information. Why not say that?
Wouldn't 'historical snapshot' be a bit clearer?
A year ago I would liked to have found an explanation of "Attic
Data" too, since the average OSM user knows it from the OSM website as
"history" or "chronic" (German). If the term "history" would at least
have been placed near "Attic Data" I would have found it by full text
searching the wiki page.
I was unable to connect "OSM history" and "Attic Data", even with using
search engines. I had to ask on IRC and as I was told I was looking for
"Attic Data" I thought 'WTF! what a stupid name! Nobody ever will find
that in the wiki'
I've added an explanation by now; hopefully it will be considered
helpful:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Overpass_API/Overpass_QL&diff=1270275&oldid=1262567
Why didn't you do it? :)
How? How are inexperienced users, using the wiki to learn something new,
meant to know how to improve it when it's incorrect.
That you suggest I do it, implies you don't understand the purpose of a
wiki.
It seems many believe it's a place to show off how knowledgeable they
are by using the latest, trendy language.
Please remember wiki/help pages are mainly read by inexperienced
users
Define the "inexperienced user", please.
I am nearly totally inexperienced in programming but even JOSM has
a built-in interface to query the Overpass API.
With overpass turbo and its wizard you need very little experience of
whatsoever to create a successful query.
Unsure of the relevance of that comment. I maybe able to create /a/
successful query, but is it the one that I require, seeing it's not
clear what, as just one example, Attic data means.
You appear to misunderstand my main point: Putting uncommon expressions
in the wiki (any part, not just Overpass) deters users from learning how
to use OSM & it's offshoot programs.
who aren't fully aware of all the latest hip language (that
often goes out of fashion 6 months later).
Well, since this is a name of a feature of a wide- and heavily used
tool I doubt that it is part of a fashion hipster language.
That you also had to ask, & others are unaware of its meaning, proves it
isn't in common usage.
You can help doing this, too.
Again, how?
PS This post is a good example why I don't use IRC. Responses there only
helps one user. Here on the list or web forums a record is kept that
*all* can read & learn from.
Dave F.
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