+1, taking pictures for Mapillary or OpenStreetCam is not really
competiting with time for OSM contribution. Moreover, I gave a talk
about using street-level imagery for contributing to OSM [1] to this
year State of the Map. Clearly, pictures taken by other people allowed
me to spend hours contributing remotely, which I could'nt have done
without this data source (as my city is already pretty well mapped).
> For new contributors, the recommendations feel a bit too focused on
> niche use cases, and not enough on core OSM. When people have a few
> hours or days to spare and want to contribute to OSM, then I would
> almost always recommend that they start mapping in their local area
> using iD or JOSM (depending on computer skills).
Well, we can also add traditionnal OSM editors in the list ;-) But the
original idea was to make people discover new thematic tools. I think
when someone introduce you to OSM, the person always mention mainstream
editors. And if you have any idea of interesting tools for less "niche"
cases, let me know.
> Something else to consider is that "outside" and "remotely" does not
> cover the entire OSM experience. In fact, the traditional way to
> contribute is to collect data outside, and enter it back at home. Right
> now, that's not an option with your tool.
In fact we already manage tools working in both cases (working both on
desktop and smartphone, like OSM notes). And for applications needing
ground data but only working on desktop, even if it's not explicit in
the app, if you don't have info then you will instinctively go find it
on the ground. Like OpenBeerMap, it doesn't work well on smartphone, so
you will mainly use it on desktop. But if you can't remember which beer
is served on a given pub, the best solution is to go buy some by
yourself and then input data (be careful of drunk data) :-)
> Hope this mail doesn't come across as too negative! I mostly focussed on
> potential improvements rather than the things that worked fine for me
> (i.e. everything not mentioned here).
No worries, as long as it is constructive, it's good to have the
feedback ;-)
Regards,
Adrien.
[1] http://my.pavie.info/ftp/p4c-sotm-2017/diapo.pdf
Le 22/09/2017 à 12:11, Jo a écrit :
I don't really mind having Mapillary in there, but if you do, you'd
have to mention OpenStreetCam as well, of course.
When I go out to survey using making Mapillary pictures, it's true I'm
not adding data using Vespucci or Walking Papers, but I wouldn't do
those things anyway.
Making automated picture sequences doesn't really get in the way of
what I'm actuallly doing, cycling, or walking.
When couch mapping they are often really handy to have and work with,
so I definitely helps us. Aerial imagery is great, but even at high
resolution it's not possible to see every detail on it.
Jo
2017-09-22 11:57 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr <o...@tobias-knerr.de
<mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de>>:
On 21.09.2017 19 <tel:21.09.2017%2019>:45, PanierAvide wrote:
> http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/
<http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/>
This may be controversial, but I don't think a guide for people
considering to contribute to OSM should send them away to Mapillary.
They aren't part of OSM proper and arguably compete with us for
volunteer time. Mapillary let us use their images, of course, but they
have that in common with a lot of other orgs that no one would mistake
for being part of the OSM project.
> It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented
ones, who
> don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood.
For new contributors, the recommendations feel a bit too focused on
niche use cases, and not enough on core OSM. When people have a few
hours or days to spare and want to contribute to OSM, then I would
almost always recommend that they start mapping in their local area
using iD or JOSM (depending on computer skills).
Something else to consider is that "outside" and "remotely" does not
cover the entire OSM experience. In fact, the traditional way to
contribute is to collect data outside, and enter it back at home.
Right
now, that's not an option with your tool.
Hope this mail doesn't come across as too negative! I mostly
focussed on
potential improvements rather than the things that worked fine for me
(i.e. everything not mentioned here).
Tobias
It might be
> interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User
> interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.
>
> This project is open source and is available on this repository :
>
> https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM
<https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM>
>
> You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow contributing
> more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you speak English +
> another language, you can help translating the application :
>
> https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/
<https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/>
>
> If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Adrien.
>
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