On 05/02/2020 12:15, Dave F via talk wrote:
Who & how did you contact them? If a Public forum, could you post a
link? if email, could you copy paste exactly the replies to you?
not a public forum, I wrote to VigotheCarpatian as an openstreetmap
message, here's some of it:
myself, on 2019-12-06 19:31
Hi Vigo, thank you for replying, this is one changeset where I commented
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35874422
that’s just an example, but not at all an isolated case. what I’ve
been seeing here in Panama (the country) is that Kaart people in 2015
have been mapping individual commercial enterprises as separate buildings.
two examples, in Chorrera and in Panama.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385343944
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/382714337
the whole Avenida B in Panamá has buildings which have been split like
this. I have personally checked that in cases, a single building was
split in three slices. I did not fix it.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/384068371/history
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also, please, don’t leave junk behind, like |source_1|, |shop=yes|, or
even putting a building in Panamá, and writing |addr:city=Santa Ana|.
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one more mistake is relative to mapping landuse:retail as
landuse:commercial, possibly because of the false friend Spanish
“centro comercial”. (example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/385055420/history)
there’s very few editors in Panamá, megabytes are expensive, we can’t
afford neither the workload nor the bandwidth to fix this, so I’m
trying to have things fixed upstream, that is, from Kaart.
you already have Vigo's answer, on 2019-12-06 23:04:
Hi Mario, thank you for all the information and feedback on the work
done in Panama. I have informed the team and we will use the
information you gave us to improve future edits made by Kaart. Thanks
again for reaching out to us.
to which I answered, 2019-12-07 14:23
I’m happy you will use the information I gave you, but it is relevant
that you’re speaking in plural form, that’s for the Kaart
organization. Since you’re speaking for a group, where the group edits
in an organized way in an area where there is a community of mappers,
that puts your group (Kaart) in the position where you should consider
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines.
Please do that for the future, I insist. And if you have any current
activity regarding Panamá, it’s not too late to inform the local
community via the wiki.
As for the “… to improve future edits”, well, that’s nice, but what
about what your editors left behind? I’m glad you reverted to
unclassified that unclassified you had tagged as track, but there’s
more drops in the sea. What about organizing a review of your past
edits, involving the local community?
and I got the reaction, 2019-12-09 17:10
Hello Mario, here is the wiki page of projects and places that Kaart
are working in. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kaart
which did not and still does not mention Panama at all.
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