Hi Alexandre, it's true that too many projects using OSM do not provide the required attribution. However, I'm surprised that you got reactions of "this is fine" for some of the more egregious examples you mention in your email. While individual mappers will of course hold a wide range of opinions, that is not the position of the OSM Foundation.
On 27.04.20 19:49, Alexandre Oliveira wrote: > On the mobile > version of the Facebook page, there's no attribution at all, simply a > map. And worse, it redirects to Google Maps when you click on it. I assume this is the same issue as the one described here: https://github.com/grischard/osm-lacking-attribution/issues/8 Facebook was contacted about this specific problem 2.5 months ago. They have acknowledged it as an issue, but have unfortunately failed to correct it so far. For now, we still have hope that they will just finally fix it. At some point, we may have to take further steps, but we haven't really come to an agreement on what those would be. For OSMF action on issues which are less clear-cut (i.e. attribution is present, but insufficient), the main roadblock is that we have not yet approved the attribution guidelines which will make it clearer what style of attribution we expect. Of course, data users are already obligated to follow our license today, but hopefully the guidelines will help to eliminate any ambiguity about whether certain controversial practices are acceptable. The most recent version of the guidelines drafted by the LWG is almost there, but has drawn community criticism about being too generous especially w.r.t. initially hidden attribution. We are working on them, and once they are approved, we will point to them when we contact data users about low-quality attribution. I admit that the OSMF has been frustratingly slow to make progress on attribution, and I hope we will get better about this. But there's a lot that can be achieved by the community in a distributed manner as well. You've already mentioned the #AttributionIsNotOptional initiative as an example. It's not rare to hear success stories about mappers simply sending a friendly reminder to some companies, especially small-scale users who made a honest mistake and forgot about the attribution. It also helps to report lacking attribution to Guillaume's previously mentioned issue tracker¹ – the board is keeping an eye on that and prioritizing issues based on whether the site or app has already been contacted, how bad the attribution is, and on how visible the site is. In any case, I'd like to emphasize that a slow response to missing attribution should not be mistaken for being ok with it. Nor does it mean that we will not act more decisively in the future. Visible attribution is a key requirement of our license, and not optional. Tobias ¹ https://github.com/grischard/osm-lacking-attribution _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk