My architect had to pass a state exam. Few of the cs phds I've interviewed could do ANY of the tasks you quote. None had to pass an exam in making programs that actually worked
But many brilliant folks without even a bs could do so blindfolded. Let us all toast to the day academia returns to to the point of usefulness. In the mean time every year I abuse the Balisage slogan "nothing is more practical than ...... Something thact actually works" But as James mentioned some greats in the field excelled dispute the institutions, Im all for education but let us not confuse that with competence Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:15 PM, daniela florescu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> If they weren't any software academics, there would be no software >> professors, >> and if there are no software professors, there will be no software >> students. If there are no students, >> there is no critical mass. >> >> Etc. Etc. Etc. The vicious circle. >> ------------------------------------------------ >> >> --- David >> Disagree >> Some of the greatest software developers in the world have had no formal >> education. >> Many more have had formal education in non-software fields. > > David, that's just funny. In many aspects, maybe that's the reason for the > horrible today's IT mess: > "I just throw some stuff up there, some pile of PhP in top of some SQL, in > top of some Java, in top > of JSON/XML, in top of of some whatever....... just glue it together somehow > ..... It just works." > > Until it doesn't anymore. > > What can I say. Good luck. I really hope that you live in a house built by > someone with no formal architectural > education or you drive on highways built by someone with no formal training > in building roads, > or you have a doctor ..... whatever .....(not that I didn't hear about > Buckminster Fuller , but such people are in the large minority). > > ===== > > Dear people on this thread with formal education in software fields, > > If you know how to program, and you understand how to build a buffer manager, > and a lock manager, and able to calculate > the complexity of an algorithm, or how to write an automatic > paralellization algorithm for a functional language, or how to write > an automatic detection of indexes algorithm, or other mundane stuff like > that, there is hope for you. > > We'll talk to you, just send us email . > > In the meantime, if we find a way to teach the foundation behind markup > languages, functional languages as database queries, > and other stuff like that, in major universities, that would be awesome. > > Best regards > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] > http://x-query.com/mailman/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ [email protected] http://x-query.com/mailman/listinfo/talk
