Excellent illustrative clarification. Thanks esjune! Now, for the traditional AT dancers in Buenos Aires, the word "cadencia" o "bailar con cadencia" has a different meaning. I'd like to read posts with authoritative definitions of the concept from the people who "own" the tradition, the Uruguayan and Argentine milongueros.
Ruben > This is probably detracting from the main discussion of what is cadencia, > so I've created a separate topic. I am making the point that words in > different languages may appear similar but the meaning may be completely > different. Depending on which term you use - cadencia (Spanish), cadenza > (Italian), or cadence (English), my point is that ideas get lost in > translation and we need to use a term in its original language whenever > possible. > While the Italian term "cadenza" also translates to "cadence" in English, > the two terms mean different things to musicians. > Now I'm venturing into the world of music. This is relevant because most > tango musicians have Italian roots. However I won't go into what cadence > (English) technically means to musicians (suffice to say that it refers to > various forms to close musical phrases with generally two chords). > But I shall describe the Italian term "cadenza". When you speak with a > musician, cadenza as marked in orchestral scores refers to a fairly long > passage of music during which a solo instrumentalist plays flourishes > before ending with a cadence (which is intended to signal to the > conductor and the rest of the orchestra the close of the soloist's > exhibition of virtuosi). Because the cadence "bookmarks" the virtuosi > passage, it has become the practice to call the entire virtuosi passage a > cadenza. I've come across cadenzas during many concertos which I've had > the pleasure of performing as a member of the orchestra's rank and file, > but I've never heard of a cadenza in any of the tango music I've danced > to, so let's disregard this meaning for tango. > I've mentioned cadenza so that it is evident that one differentiates > between what cadence means to a dancer and what it means to a musician. > Most importantly, the point is that the term "cadence" translate back to > their original languages have different meanings. > > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
