It looks like MORE IS LESS to me. More ways of doing the same things ends up with messy templates because a lot of coders will mix the styles. I've already encountered this with mixing formal and informal bindings and it's a real pain in the butt. Let's add a third way of binding with a new syntax? I really don't like it.

One thing that makes code readable and understandable is consistency. This would introduce a different way of defining component bindings that is inconsistent with the current styles. At least the formal and informal are very similar. But these look like two different languages:

<h1>${thread.title}</h1>
<form jwcid="@Form>
...
</form>

I do not look forward to templates that look like:

<h1>${thread.title}</h1>
<form jwcid="@Form>
        $message{label}<input jwcid="someInputField">
</form>

It's ugly, it's inconsistent, and it's a mishmash of style. I'll say it again: too many ways of doing the same thing leads to ugliness, messiness, and also to confusion.

-1 on this.

Jamie



On May 14, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote:

Additionally, this will now allow completely invalid HTML templates. <shudder>


On May 13, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Howard M. Lewis Ship (JIRA) wrote:

Simplified insert binding template syntax
-----------------------------------------

         Key: TAPESTRY-331
         URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-331
     Project: Tapestry
        Type: New Feature
  Components: Framework
    Versions: 4.0
    Reporter: Howard M. Lewis Ship
    Priority: Minor
     Fix For: 4.0


It would be desirable to support a simplified syntax for obtaining data via bindings and inserting it. A proposal has been to adopt ant-like syntax ("${...}") and interpret the expression within the braces as a binding reference. This would eliminate the need for many Insert components, i.e.:



<h1>${thread.title}</h1>

rather than:

<h1><span jwcid="@Insert" value="thread.title"/></h1>

Or:

${message:prompt}

rather than:

<span key="prompt"/>


This kind of substitution is less invisible, but generally less intrusive, than creating a new component.


Further, the use of the Any component could be reduced via support for:

<img src="${imagePath}"/>

rather than:

<img jwcid="@Any" src="ognl:imagePath"/>


Some questions occur; are the following legal?

<${element}> ... </${element}>
<img jwcid="@Image" src="${asset:foo}"/>
<div ${attribute}="${value}"/>


A final note: these bindings should be treated as we treat informal parameters today; this includes automatically expanding IAssets into their corresponding URLs.


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