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You know... I think (as much as I'd like to see this just 'built in')
this is a lot like saying "I'd like my source code editor/syntax
highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" - it doesn't
belong. What you need is an "Eclipse/Idea/Pick your IDE" that integrates
the two.

Hmmm... Yeah... That would be an interesting endeavor. Time to work out
something like this... Take that IDE to application-land.

James Carman wrote:
> It might be worth looking into OSCache for this.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian K. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:20 AM
> To: Tapestry development
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 progress
> 
> Works for me. Plenty of growing room for 4 left anyway, right Jesse? ;-)
> I'm just hoping to get documentation (*ugh*) and tooling (Spindle) up to
> speed before 5 hits. (feed the masses and all that :-))
> 
> In speaking of performance... (I'm off in dream land here, I know... but
> I like it there sometimes)
> 
> Many moons ago, there was talk of a 'tool' /'utility' that would
> basically spider a Tapestry app and get all the generated HTML resulting
> in basically a statically generated site. This helps tremendously when
> you're running behind a web server that's tuned to serve static content
> - it's what they do and they do it pretty well with no overhead past
> itself (meaning no java, no db, etc). I'd like to see if we can't add
> some sort of 'cache' attribute to the HTML (somewhere) that would allow
> Tapestry to perform this type of "wait, it says to cache it - i've
> already generated it, I'll just grab that and use it" processing. This
> would also allow Tapestry to build on first access but write out the
> generated HTML so the next time a request comes in for it, the web
> server would find it first (outside the mapping for Tapestry). Granted
> this would only work for pages that were "cache=true" and had no dynamic
> components inside it, but for a lot of sites that's enough (especially
> outside a 'user' area). If there's a static form, submitting it would
> pass back to Tapestry for processing.
> 
> I'd see this as only improving performance if you run Tapestry behind
> something like Apache. Granted, you'd get a lot of "that's not fair -
> you're not comparing our framework to yours if you don't hit your
> framework more than once when we have to hit ours every time"
> comments... but hey ;-)
> 
> My .02
> Brian
> 
> Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>>> The basic AOP  infrastructure is coming along. I expect the rest to
>>> ramp up pretty quickly once I get that in place, but we're still
>>> talking months.  Maybe a useable beta by year's end.
>>>
>>> I think I predicted a big performance boost for Tapestry 4 apps vs.
>>> equivalent Tapestry 3 apps.  I believe the difference between 4 and 5
>>> will be greater. In fact, I expect OGNL support to be an add on, and
>>> the built-in code will be an improved version of tapestry-prop (from
>>> Tapestry @ JavaForge).  I want Tapestry to be extremely high
>>> performance, as one of its differentiators from JSF and Rails.
>>>
> 

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