On 4/26/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You know... I think (as much as I'd like to see this just 'built in')
> this is a lot like saying "I'd like my source code editor/syntax
> highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" - it doesn't
> belong. What you need is an "Eclipse/Idea/Pick your IDE" that integrates
> the two.

The above paragraph is in some English-like language that look
*exactly* like English but runs through my brain without computing
into anything at all ;-)

Probably the similar to the language my wife uses to mean "do it
yesterday or I will make your life a living hell" when she says "do it
whenever, I don't care."

What does "I'd like my source code editor/syntax
 highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" mean?

Geoff


>
> Hmmm... Yeah... That would be an interesting endeavor. Time to work out
> something like this... Take that IDE to application-land.
>
> James Carman wrote:
> > It might be worth looking into OSCache for this.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian K. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:20 AM
> > To: Tapestry development
> > Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 progress
> >
> > Works for me. Plenty of growing room for 4 left anyway, right Jesse? ;-)
> > I'm just hoping to get documentation (*ugh*) and tooling (Spindle) up to
> > speed before 5 hits. (feed the masses and all that :-))
> >
> > In speaking of performance... (I'm off in dream land here, I know... but
> > I like it there sometimes)
> >
> > Many moons ago, there was talk of a 'tool' /'utility' that would
> > basically spider a Tapestry app and get all the generated HTML resulting
> > in basically a statically generated site. This helps tremendously when
> > you're running behind a web server that's tuned to serve static content
> > - it's what they do and they do it pretty well with no overhead past
> > itself (meaning no java, no db, etc). I'd like to see if we can't add
> > some sort of 'cache' attribute to the HTML (somewhere) that would allow
> > Tapestry to perform this type of "wait, it says to cache it - i've
> > already generated it, I'll just grab that and use it" processing. This
> > would also allow Tapestry to build on first access but write out the
> > generated HTML so the next time a request comes in for it, the web
> > server would find it first (outside the mapping for Tapestry). Granted
> > this would only work for pages that were "cache=true" and had no dynamic
> > components inside it, but for a lot of sites that's enough (especially
> > outside a 'user' area). If there's a static form, submitting it would
> > pass back to Tapestry for processing.
> >
> > I'd see this as only improving performance if you run Tapestry behind
> > something like Apache. Granted, you'd get a lot of "that's not fair -
> > you're not comparing our framework to yours if you don't hit your
> > framework more than once when we have to hit ours every time"
> > comments... but hey ;-)
> >
> > My .02
> > Brian
> >
> > Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> >>> The basic AOP  infrastructure is coming along. I expect the rest to
> >>> ramp up pretty quickly once I get that in place, but we're still
> >>> talking months.  Maybe a useable beta by year's end.
> >>>
> >>> I think I predicted a big performance boost for Tapestry 4 apps vs.
> >>> equivalent Tapestry 3 apps.  I believe the difference between 4 and 5
> >>> will be greater. In fact, I expect OGNL support to be an add on, and
> >>> the built-in code will be an improved version of tapestry-prop (from
> >>> Tapestry @ JavaForge).  I want Tapestry to be extremely high
> >>> performance, as one of its differentiators from JSF and Rails.
> >>>
> >
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