Can we include auto-wire support in 4.1?  Has anyone had a chance to look at
that?  I think it will make Tapestry development a bit easier if you don't
have to manually inject your HiveMind services.

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From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:19 AM
To: Tapestry development
Subject: Re: Releases - what's in and where

Oh geez. I better have 4.1 done before the end of the month :) No I wouldn't
worry about a couple month wait time.

On 5/2/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What I don't want is a protracted delay between releases. If we can push
> the doc changes up, merge the rest in with 4.1, and still get out the
> door within a couple of months, I'm good. If it'll be much longer than
> that, I'd rather push 4.0.3 out end of month, then 4.1 after. Trying to
> balance the "too long between releases" and "too short between releases".
>
> I'll look at merging up with the tapestry4/trunk with the changes we
> have so far - relieve you of that. ;-) Have tried to stay out of the 4.1
> area so I wouldn't step on toes, but it sounds like it at least has
> shoes on now (so stepping is possible, but not as painful if it happens
> :-))
>
> Brian
>
> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > Hmmm...It is hard to project a 4.1 release date,  but I can say that
> > most of
> > the hard work is done already. It's more a matter of agonizing over how
> to
> > make this as easy and simple for people to interact with (when
> developing
> > components) as possible. It's close, but I'm still not happy.
> >
> > Since documentation can always be updated independently of a
> release(unless
> > it's documentation on an unreleased feature ), I'd prefer to just kill
> off
> > anymore 4.0 releases and concentrate on 4.1.
> >
> > Merging up sounds like a great idea :) I've been putting off doing
> another
> > merge since the last time I did one I somehow managed to blow away a lot
> of
> > work without even noticing. (which subsequently caused many precious
> hours
> > to be lost ) The longer the merges stay out of sync the worse in my
> > opinion.
> > 4.1 is stable enough that I don't think anything I'm doing will affect
> > anyone unless they try to code to the new API interface features while
> I'm
> > still changing them.
> >
> > That's my take on it. I'd prefer to have more pressure on getting 4.1
> > out as
> > well to be honest. If people start depending on changes made only to 4.1
> > and
> > I'm the only one holding things up it'll make peer pressure do more of
> its
> > magical work :)
> >
> > On 5/1/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> > Hmmm...
> >
> > What is your projected timeframe for a 4.1 release?
> >
> > Reason I ask: If it's going to be a while, would your sentiment still
> > hold true if I were to take on the responsibility of merging the 4.0.X
> > changes into your 4.1? Especially for 4.0.3 (what has been resolved and
> > is currently in JIRA slated for 4.0.3), most of the changes are
> > documentation - but some of that documentation is in Javadoc. There are
> > still more changes that Andy and I have marked for 3.0.5 and 4.0.3 -
> > some of which add (small?) features (which prompted my question about
> > whether it should be 4.1 instead of 4.0.3) but is still backward
> > compatible.
> >
> > If it's decided to go with the X.Y.Z method of release numbering (which
> > I believe is pretty standard across the board), would it change anything
> > to move your work to 4.2 and release 4.1 with what's currently marked
> > 4.0.3? Again, I'd be willing to merge up with you instead of you merging
> > back from us.
> >
> > ("compelling" is always very subjective. :-))
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> >> If at all possible I'd like to avoid a 4.0.3 release, unless there is a
> >> very
> >> compelling reason to make one.
> >
> >> There are still a few svn merges that need to happen from the 4.0.X to
> >> 4.1branches but I ~hope~ everything remains backwards compatible as
> >> is.
> >
> >
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Jesse Kuhnert
Tacos/Tapestry, team member/developer

Open source based consulting work centered around
dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind.



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