On Wednesday, Oct 9, 2002, at 20:53 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> And we can continue to be polite, even if he can't. Right... Why don't we start there then: it's not because one is French that one has so express himself like a pig. With a Phd or not. Now back to our regular program: > And everyone else ... Tapestry does need bigger > exposure, either through JBoss or Jakarta or both. Why should that be? Or more to the point, what would be the cost? WebObjects was/is/would never be a mainstream tool. In the same way as Smalltalk or Objective C does not compare to C++ or Java. Or Apple to Windows. > Marc > is out there, big brass balls and all, living the open- > source life, taking on BEA, the whole works, and I > respect him for that. Fair enough. And? > So I don't buy into the "buzz- > off" line of thinking. Except when you have to deal will pointlessly annoying insects. Then pest control is called for. > Throughout my career, my apps > and frameworks have benefitted from strong opposition, > forcing me in new directions --- I'm just used to, and > expect, polite and thoughtful discourse, not rants. Fair enough. Constructive, strong, argumented opposition is good. But I have seen none of that so far. Only invectives. > And has Marc struck a nerve? Nope. Only himself. > Is Tapestry just too > difficult for newbies? Well, any tool is expected to have some complexity, isn't it? The question is: is it manageable. Does it pay off? > And if so, will better docs > help, More documentation is always welcome :-) > or do we need to shift directions? Perhaps. But not by dumbing down things. Trying to hide complexity and make a tool more "approachable" is all good and well, but should not be confused with making it dumb for the false hope of making it more mainstream. "Mainstream" is overrated in any case. PA. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Tapestry-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tapestry-developer
