I find this a funny reaction to where Tapestry is evolving to.  The
enhancements in 4.0 are mostly about letting the framework do more; it
may be more "esoteric" beneath the surface, but what it exposes to the
user is getting simpler and simpler.

On 7/19/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karthik Abram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:52 PM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: RE: Tapestry starting to look too steep
> >
> >
> > The best way to learn Tapestry is to write a component on your own. I do
> > agree that .NET is way simpler - with 4.0 it "feels" like Tapestry is
> > becoming more esoteric (deliberately using 'esoteric' and not
> > 'complicated').
> >
> 
>         Yah, I get the same feel. It's becoming more and more a tool for
> hard core programmers. I mean how many programming newbies even know what
> the *concept* of a delegate is, much less understand annotation libraries,
> the whole "bean" thing, etc.
> 
>         I'm kind of of two minds about the direction, because on the one
> hand the hard-core programmer in me goes "cool, I can use some of that
> stuff", but the pragmatist in me wonders if it might be approaching a
> complexity level where it'll be easier to just roll my own than learn the
> tapestry way. I suppose the actual release of 4.0 will tell the tale, until
> then all I can do is keep my fingers crossed.
> 
>         --- Pat
> 
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