Guys thanks for the feedback... It seems we might go in for tapestry, as there is a lot of UI to be taken care of, and somehow I'm not comfortable with tiles or velocity either, they both can screw up things at unexpected times!! Pure HTML is always safer..
Since there is a lot of 'id' playing in tapestry too it looks lucrative, but again as most of us know, there is a real 'steep' learning curve involved, and frankly there is hardly anything 'worth-while' in terms of real world applications available online.. I got my hands on the book for tapestry3.0 in 2003, the online pdf version, which was purchased at that time and released chapter by chapter... Can u help me with some places to go for checking the real world examples, except the wiki and the betterpetshop (that will come in the next thread), as to where do I start off... Regards Varun Mehta Phone: (020) 25702654 Mobile: (91) 986907266 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* imagination is more important than knowledge - albert einstein *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -----Original Message----- From: Eric Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:08 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Back to Tapestry after an Year > How is Cayenne with dealing with session and transaction issues and > lazy initialization problem?. I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe you can email me personally and explain the issues? I'd be happy to offer suggestions. > Would you say that it is easy to migrate > from hibernate to cayenne? Not sure. I guess it depends on how cleanly separated your code is. At the very least, you'll still have to create a cayenne model to replace your .hbm files and replace all HQL dialect with the equivalent Cayenne expression API. If you have an existing Hibernate implementation and it works, I'd suggest sticking with it. If you are starting something new, that's when I'd say have a look again. Cheers, eric On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Chris Chiappone wrote: > How is Cayenne with dealing with session and transaction issues and > lazy initialization problem?. Thats what I seem to have the most > difficulty with. Currently I seem to have to use lazy="false" with > all my persistant objects. Would you say that it is easy to migrate > from hibernate to cayenne? > > On 8/18/05, Eric Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I can offer a few reasons why I like it better. >> >> It's based on another excellent O/R framework (EOF, the O/R framework >> bundled with WebObjects). >> >> I think it's easier to learn, the naming is less awkward, and the >> Cayenne mailing list is more helpful than the Hibernate forums. >> >> Cayenne dynamically will fault relationships when needed. When >> using Hibernate I felt like you have to think a lot more about the >> presentation of specific pages while writing low level code. If you >> haven't pre-fetched every single thing you need to paint a page, >> Hibernate will throw attempting to traverse the object graph (because >> your Hibernate session is long closed). >> >> I think most importantly, the Cayenne modeler is so far superior to >> Hibernate tools (middlegen, hbm2java) they just cannot be compared. >> I couldn't even quantify how much time and effort this tool has saved >> me. >> >> Again, this is only my opinion. But, I'm probably one of few people >> that have used both frameworks on large projects. You mileage my >> vary. >> >> Cheers, >> Eric >> >> On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote: >> >> >>> Could you share what exactly makes you to consider >>> Cayene being better tnan Hibernate? >>> >>> >>> --- James Treleaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I also recommend that people who have not yet >>>> invested in Hibernate try >>>> Cayenne. I actually bought 'Hibernate in Action' >>>> because I figured >>>> Hibernate *must* have had some advantage over >>>> Cayenne that I didn't know >>>> about - but after reading 'Hibernate in Action' I >>>> remain convinced that >>>> Cayenne is the superior ORM tool. >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Konstantin Ignatyev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add >>> fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 >>> square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of >>> desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode >>> seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the >>> stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000 >>> >>> Bowers, C.A. 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